This Guy Should Take Up Golf, I Am Sure He Would Get Round In 18.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3361640/Saudi-millionaire-cleared-raping-teenager-telling-court-accidentally-penetrated-18-year-old-tripped-fell-her.html

[youngmafbog]

Hmm, would need to really dig into the details of this case to comment.

From this article some things seem a bit odd on both sides.

[jim360]

Cases like this are very difficult to prove guilt in. I wouldn't be surprised if the jury believed that he was lying through his teeth -- but that would not be enough to bring a conviction.

[Khandro]

Though the excuse is risible, I'm really pleased he wasn't found guilty, the judge could see that she was plainly aiming for financial gain.

[EDDIE51]

A very misleading headline. If you read the story the girl willingly came back to his house and then to his bedroom. He had already had sex with her friend but it looks like she changed her mind after he had already started to have sex with her.
Yet another Daily Wail 1/2 truth story.

[anotheoldgit]

EDDIE51

/// A very misleading headline. If you read the story the girl willingly came back to his house and then to his bedroom. He had already had sex with her friend but it looks like she changed her mind after he had already started to have sex with her.
Yet another Daily Wail 1/2 truth story. ///

Why a misleading headline?

How can you blame the Mail of telling 1/2 truths, this is the headline and it is what he used in his defence and apparently the jury believed him.

*** Saudi millionaire cleared of raping teenager after telling court he may have accidentally penetrated 18-year-old when he tripped and fell on her ***

[EDDIE51]

The main point is that the woman willingly went to his bed and then objected when she thought he had sex with her while she was asleep.
The bit about 'accidental penetration' is a small part of the defence.
However it is by far the most 'sensational' part,which is why the Mail used it as a headline. If the headline had been '' Girl was willing,says defendant'' it would not have the impact the Mail intended.

[hc4361]

She was sleeping on his sofa, not in his bed.

[hc4361]

Same headline in The Independent

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/millionaire-ehsan-abdulaziz-who-said-he-accidentally-tripped-and-penetrated-teen-is-cleared-of-rape-a6774946.html

[Bazile]

So what did he say - what's in the Mail's headline or -

After swabs taken from the alleged victim found traces of his semen in her vagina, he said he may have accidentally penetrated her when he fell on her as she pulled him on top of her.

[hc4361]

He said both.

[Khandro]

He's fat, ugly and old, he'd paid for a £1,000 table in the club and treated them, then they went all the way to his flat in Maida Vale, what did they think he wanted, to play monopoly?

[joeluke]

So he's alleging that he tripped and fell on the girl, (who must have been lying with her legs open and no underwear on), and his pen!s was just at the correct angle to enable entry into her.

What a load of b0II0cks, as excuses in court goes this one definitely takes the biscuit

.....and the jury believed him!!!! Did the jury consist of 12 muppets?

I think the operative words in this case are 'Saudi millionaire'

[jim360]

Jury may or nay not have believed him but since he's the defendant it almost doesn't matter a jot what he said. It's up to the case against him to prove guilt, not him to establish innocence.

Also, in point of fact, his claim is that the complainant pulled him towards her, not that he tripped and fell randomly:

"Mr Abdulaziz said he had gone to wake the young woman to offer her a T-shirt to sleep in, or to offer to pay for a taxi home, but that she pulled him on top of her..."

which is a great deal different from a trip.

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - //He's fat, ugly and old, he'd paid for a £1,000 table in the club and treated them, then they went all the way to his flat in Maida Vale, what did they think he wanted, to play monopoly? //

Every time a thread like this crops up, at least one AB’er puts forward the ‘What did she expect?’ argument – and another AB’er makes the argument for a little respect and humanity.

I this case, that is you and I.

So, if the eighteen-year-old sat on his lap all night and then danced around his living room stark naked, that does not, as in NOT, give the man the right to assume that he is free to sexually abuse her against her consent.

If a woman is clearly not willing to participate in sexual activity, then a man who continues against her will is guilty either of sexual assault, or rape, depending on how far the assault goes.

But no, a few drinks and a lift to a flat do not translate as – ‘Feel free to have sex with me against my will …’ – not in a civilised society they do not.

[david small]

Are there pretty pink clouds where you live Andy?

[joeluke]

Fluffy ones

[retrocop]

Try telling an Arab millionaire how to conduct himself in a civilised country.They throw money at the gullible and then think they own you!!!