And Now No Booze - Is There Anything Left To Enjoy?

[youngmafbog]

So its a diet of carrots and nothing else.

Even if you dont live longer it will certainly feel like it!

No one took notice of the more lax guidelines so whoon earth is going to take a jot of notice of this?

http://news.sky.com/story/1618772/drinkers-told-any-alcohol-carries-cancer-risk

[RATTER15]

Naomi, some things are best kept to ourselves!

actually I said that to her as well!!!

[naomi24]

Haaaa!

[anotheoldgit]

They are forever telling us that we are now living too long, and these are the ones who are now in their 80, 90, or even 100s.

These old timers are from the generations who smoked, drank, and ate just what they liked.

They didn't jog, go to the gym or even dieted.

No they went into smoked filled clubs, pubs, and cinemas, enjoyed their fish & chips also their full English etc and hardly ever went to the doctors.

So at their now advancing age, they must have been doing something right.

I wonder if our now health concious generations will now live even longer?

[jim360]

Apparently eating too many carrots could lead to skin discoloration. So I guess those are out too.

[Sqad]

AOG
These 80, 90 100, year olds would have died in their 60's had it not been for bypass surgery and stenting of heart blood vessels. About 30,000 bypass procedures are done in the UK and certainly more than 500,000 in the U.S per year. Couple that with the pharmacological advance of drugs that act on the failing heart, one has a reason for the longevity.

These "old timers" did everything wrong, but were lucky enough to be followed by an era where surgery could "get them out of trouble."

[viv41]

Blimey Sqad, that's a good post, I never thought of it like that ......

[anotheoldgit]

Sqad

Not all of the present day 80s 90s and 100 year olds, have had bypass surgery and stenting of heart blood vessels, or any other surgery if it come to that, in fact I wager it is only a very small minority of those ancients that actually have.

[-Talbot-]

On the plus side ... I love carrots!

[retrocop]

Mr aog
No it's us youngsters who had to undergo strenouous fitness tests who kept ourselves healthy appear to suffer the Knackered knees and hips . Back problems and serious major surgical procedures. :-)

[Sqad]

AOG.

You are perfectly correct, but what is NOT in that statistic is the number of "that ilk" that died in their 60's and do not figure in the survival group..

Yes their are many facets to cardiovascular disease and survival rates and all that the medical profession is saying is that alcohol consumption is just one of them.

[Sqad]

"there."

[jim360]

It is a rose-tinted view to assume that somehow all that excessive smoking and drinking had no effect (not to mention the pollutants emitted by cars). Many people ended up with serious long-term health conditions as a result. Since these things are in part lotteries, equally many other people will have got away with treating their bodies to the worst excesses of twentieth-century life.

I suspect most people won't take this seriously, and while for many that won't have a major impact on their life (especially if they don't particularly drink much in the first place) many more will end up putting a huge strain on health services. You're welcome not to care -- and while I didn't drink that much anyway this isn't going to stop me having the very occasional drink either -- but please stop pretending that these things don't have consequences.

[Sqad]

Good post by Jim ^^

I have sympathy for the medical profession as many of the studies and opinions of doctors, even eminent doctors, are conflicting. e.g value of statins, danger of salt, can you be fit and fat, alcohol dangers ect ect.
But what can the medics do other than plan properly conducted trials, assess the results and come to a conclusion.
NOW........would you prefer that the results were not published if they didn't correspond to your particular opinion? Or, might you prefer that they were published in respected journals and then picked up by the media for them to put their particular spin on them?

Medicine is not and never will be an exact science.

[Peter Pedant]

Hi Sqad ! Happy NY
I have always thought Jim360 should convert to Medicine but perhaps he is being paid too much as a software engineer ....

// Medicine is not and never will be an exact science.// sounds a bit dogmatic shouldnt it be:

" Medicine is not and never will be an exact science. - I am virtually sure but I may be wrong ... "

[jim360]

"Paid too much" -- hahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Peter Pedant]

Hi Sqad and JIm ( again )

isnt the screaming headline " Doctors cure cancer again "
a sure sign of a light news day ?

you might say the same about
"Dr Killjoy says no booze before you die"

[choux]

Everyday, we as humans (irrespective of our age) have to make decisions. The more informed those decisions are the better. Choice and the freedom to choose are inestimable. Live every day to the full - there might be no tomorrow.

[Peter Pedant]

Jim - there is still time !
we had someone in our year who started aged 45

[Sqad]

PP Happy New Year to you too.

Sorry, you have lost me........both of the statements are the same.
Am I missing the point?

[-Talbot-]

Is there any such thing as Carrot Lager?