Are We Safe Anywhere These Days?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3400718/CCTV-shows-moment-woman-wearing-kangaroo-headscarf-attempted-stab-15-year-old-boy-London-bus.html

Someone must know this woman who wears such a distinctive headscarf, let us hope that she is soon caught, charged, convicted and then given a harsh sentence, but don't hold your breath.

[Gromit]

// The opinion that it was an attack due to a mental problem is certainly a possibility but has no basis or evidence to suggest it yet. //

And the opinion that it was an attack due to a racial problem is certainly a possibility but has no basis or evidence to suggest it yet, either.

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - //naomi24
//Can't help wondering why a woman would choose to carry a large kitchen knife in public?//

Naomi
Because Brixton and surrounds is not a melting pot of happy diverse races. It is a tinderbox with two opposing races. Black and Asian and no love lost between them.
Knives are the culture there.They are carried to look cool,settle gangland feuds and self protection. Brixton is not a nice place to be.Racial disputes go on everyday their and never reach the press. Unfortunately, for many Brixton's claim to fame is the Brixton Academy, Brixton Prison and David Bowie's birthplace.
They have no clue of the reality of what occurrs there frequently. I live about 7 miles down the road from Loughborough junction so can describe it with a little more knowledge of the events there. //

I would not wish to suggest that your cultural assessment of Brixton is inaccurate - but the carrying of knives with a racial motivation would not normally be the preserve of a woman of this age, nor would it take the form of an apparently random unprovoked attack on a teenage boy on public transport.

I think you are trying to shoehorn an isolated incident of random violence into a backdrop of tribal racism - and I would doubt if evidence to be ascertained backs up your position.

[retrocop]

Gromit
I agree.

[naomi24]

So do I. It's all speculation.

[Old_Geezer]

Given the victim is unknown to the attacker, and vice versa, I think that is overwhelming evidence of a mental issue. I'd be surprised if it was discovered there was a valid rational justification.

[Svejk]

///.Racial disputes go on everyday their and never reach the press. ///

This one took it's time. Luckily, as far as we know, she hasn't managed to kill anyone in the meantime.

[viv41]

Poor lad, he was very, very lucky to survive a knife attack ...

[retrocop]

If the young victim is black then we must have a load of mentally unstable ethnics wandering abroad in London.
If my memory serves correctly there were three seperate links supplied just before Christmas with altercations and assaults between two ethnic groups on buses. This is the fourth. Are they all insane or do they have racial issues?

[Gromit]

There was no audio on the cctv.
Perhaps he was playing loud (c)rap music on his phone, and the frenzied lunge was entirely justified?

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - //If the young victim is black then we must have a load of mentally unstable ethnics wandering abroad in London.
If my memory serves correctly there were three seperate links supplied just before Christmas with altercations and assaults between two ethnic groups on buses. This is the fourth. Are they all insane or do they have racial issues? //

The reasons for these attacks are individual - speculation that they simply divide along lines of racial tension is dubious in my view, society rarely falls into simple pre-determined lines of behaviour based on ethnic origins.

[retrocop]

If you say so.

[Gromit]

Retrocop,
I don't think this incident fits the pattern of the previous incidents to which you refer.
They were male youth gang members fighting, this looks entirely different.

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - //If you say so. //

I don't 'say so', I am offering an opinion, as is everyone else on the thread.

[retrocop]

Gromit
No. The incidents I recall involved an Asian man with a zimmer frame oiked off a bus by Afro/ Carribean women . Another was a Black woman having a rant at an Asian woman with loads of bleeps. There was another involving to lippy young Black girls who were wanted for assault in a bus. None were gang warfare but cultural difference disputes.

[anotheoldgit]

Mental disorder, Asian on Black altercation, Asians fear of dogs, could be any one, but what is definite is the fact that this adult woman chose to go out that day with an eight inch kitchen knife.

The question we must all be asking is why?

[naomi24]

That was my immediate question.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //Mental disorder, Asian on Black altercation, Asians fear of dogs, could be any one, but what is definite is the fact that this adult woman chose to go out that day with an eight inch kitchen knife.

The question we must all be asking is why? //

Indeed - but I think we can all agree that it's not the action of a sane civilised member of society.

[ummmm]

Retro ... You forgot to mention the white women being abusive on public transport.

[retrocop]

I gave three possible reasons that knives are carried in this area by ethnics.
I think two can certainly be dismissed in this individual case i.e. looking cool and gang feuds. The third was for protection.
Of course I am waiting for the suggestion she was off to work at the Hal al butchers shop.

[retrocop]

Ummmm
I haven't seen that one. I saw the Chelsea thugs refuse entry to a black Parisian on the Metro.