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mushroom25 | 15:51 Sat 16th Jan 2016 | News
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your contribution to the solution to Merkel's Folly

http://news.yahoo.com/german-finance-chief-floats-gasoline-tax-migrant-crisis-094913191.html

a fair way of financing the management of the current situation?
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//I thought they said mass immigration was good for an economy.//

Orderlimit.........It is, when it's managed properly
.......And the immigrants make a positive contribution.
what a clever idea, it should reduce road traffic to zero.
Do you think all external EU Schengen borders should be protected? If so, how would you proposed it to be financed? Finance Minister, Schauble (one of the few good guys) is the only one making, at least, some sort of proposal here.
The biggest problem that I can envisage is how it would be collected. A half of a cent per litre might produce a large sum from total EU sales even in a day. Perhaps one of the mathematically-minded could work that out.
As it says in the article, the Germans made a budget surplus last year so there's no need to raise taxes to pay for reinforcing the borders. It's a spurious argument anyway as they were invited in!
Zacs; Please read the first question in my above post, this isn't just about Germany.
No, but it's mainly the problems in Germany which have prompted the stupid suggestion. A problem of their own making which the finance chief seeks to cover up by seeming to make it an EU issue. Read between the lines.
Merkel is mad, and should not have said what she did, everyone knows that, but illegal immigration has been going on for a long time before she made the stupid invitation and will continue through all other porous borders unless measures are taken
Agreed. But additional taxes to do it is a 'cart before horse' idea.
I have just looked up on;
http://world.bymap.org/OilConsumption.html
and it appears that looking only at Germany, France Italy and Spain's petrol consumption, the combined amount is a staggering 7 million barrels per day, it would therefore, require only a small fraction of a cent on each litre to produce an enormous amount of income per year.
“Do you think all external EU Schengen borders should be protected? If so, how would you proposed it to be financed?”

What I would suggest, Khandro, is that Schengen should be abandoned forthwith. This would have two advantages: firstly it would not make the border with France or Germany or Sweden (and other "desireable" destinations of choice) that with Russia and Turkey. Secondly, as a result, internal borders would revert to being properly policed (which they ceased to be long before Schengen).

As far as the migrant crisis goes, it would be up to those European nations with external borders to police them (as it was before they joined the EU). It would be up to those nations with European neighbours to police their borders. This is only a Europe wide problem because of the stupid expansion of the EU to encompass potless former Soviet bloc nations and the free movement rules introduced by the EU. If people who entered Europe were confined to the country where they first entered it would concentrate the minds of the governments who currently admit them only to swiftly wave them on to the “destinations of their choice”. If they knew they would be stuck with them and will have to finance their very existence they may be less inclined to do so. Furthermore it would deter those wishing to head north and west if they knew they were going to be confined to, say, Poland, Hungary or Greece.

Like the euro, Schengen is a “fair weather” project. Its aims are admirable but ample warning was given before its introduction that not only would it allow free movement of people entitled to be here but it would also allow free movement of those who are not. So it has transpired and as a result the Treaty is creaking at the seams. A number of countries are abandoning its principles and one can only hope it will be just a matter of time before the whole Schengen Agreement is consigned to the dustbin. With a bit of luck this will predicate the collapse of the EU in its entirety and we can all return to a bit of sanity.
So Saddam did have weapons of mass destruction. His military commanders and generals.
NJ; If the external borders are strengthened, then the internal ones should not be the problem they now are, but even so they need more scrutiny, Marin le Pen has said they should not be walls but filters. It is really not possible for a country like Greece to, by itself, deal with the enormity of the problem, it is in fact, the former Eastern bloc countries who are now most effective in controlling their, and therefore, UE borders, but they have comparatively small ones in relationship to Italy, France and the Iberian Peninsular.

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