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Has David Cameron Come Away From Brussels With Anything Which Has Made You Change Your Mind Over Coming Out Of The Eu?
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Perhaps the Editor will conduct another poll, when all the details have been made crystal clear to the voters?
Perhaps the Editor will conduct another poll, when all the details have been made crystal clear to the voters?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.What I can't understand here is the fact that Labour are trying to score 'Brownie' points, by stating that Cameron has not done enough, yet left to them they are quite happy to remain in the EU.
Seeing that Labour are all for staying in, their worse enemy big business is all for staying in and our weak Premier is all for staying in, isn't that enough to make the majority want to get out?
Seeing that Labour are all for staying in, their worse enemy big business is all for staying in and our weak Premier is all for staying in, isn't that enough to make the majority want to get out?
No. However enticing deals struck now may appear to be, they cannot be guaranteed to remain unchanged in the future and whatever decisions are made then, good or bad, we'll be stuck with. This will be our one opportunity to exit. If membership of the EU is really so overwhelmingly beneficial to us, the vast majority would be happy with it and we wouldn't be having a referendum at all.
ichkeria
/// Sadly, the referendum is unlikely to be fought on the terms of this agreement. ///
I thought that was the whole purpose of this summit meeting, perhaps our Dave would have been better employed by addressing the real concerns that affect this country and doing something about them?
/// Most people are pro- or anti-EU for reasons nothing to do with this ///
No but had he gone along to Brussels with the intention to alter the rules regarding the real issues and then came away with everything he wanted, then I am sure the majority would vote to stay in.
/// Sadly, the referendum is unlikely to be fought on the terms of this agreement. ///
I thought that was the whole purpose of this summit meeting, perhaps our Dave would have been better employed by addressing the real concerns that affect this country and doing something about them?
/// Most people are pro- or anti-EU for reasons nothing to do with this ///
No but had he gone along to Brussels with the intention to alter the rules regarding the real issues and then came away with everything he wanted, then I am sure the majority would vote to stay in.
Well, the purpose of the summit meeting was several things, although it was always going to effectively involve most people talking about this as it was the main business.
I can only repeat what I said earlier, the agreement is irrelevant: except to the extent that it may bring some more of his prominent ministers on board to campaign with him.
I can only repeat what I said earlier, the agreement is irrelevant: except to the extent that it may bring some more of his prominent ministers on board to campaign with him.
ichkeria
/// You did not make that clear.
So, not strange at all. ///
My question:
"Has David Cameron Come Away From Brussels With Anything Which Has Made You Change Your Mind Over Coming Out Of The Eu"?
The secret is in the words "Which Has Made You Change Your Mind Over Coming Out Of The Eu"?
So it wasn't aimed at those who are wanting to 'REMAIN' in the EU.
/// You did not make that clear.
So, not strange at all. ///
My question:
"Has David Cameron Come Away From Brussels With Anything Which Has Made You Change Your Mind Over Coming Out Of The Eu"?
The secret is in the words "Which Has Made You Change Your Mind Over Coming Out Of The Eu"?
So it wasn't aimed at those who are wanting to 'REMAIN' in the EU.
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So far 61% of the Independence's vote state that David Cameron's EU reforms did not go far enough.
So far 61% of the Independence's vote state that David Cameron's EU reforms did not go far enough.
ichkeria
/// Sorry I misread your question AOG. ///
That's alright ichkeria, it happens.
/// Nonetheless its surely good to have both sides of the argument represented. Bit dull if it's all one way. ///
In some cases I would agree but in this particular case I just thought it would be interesting to see how many of the 'OUTS' were now persuaded to change their mind about coming out of the EU.
But of course nothing is stopping the others from commenting about the changers David Cameron has come away with.
/// Sorry I misread your question AOG. ///
That's alright ichkeria, it happens.
/// Nonetheless its surely good to have both sides of the argument represented. Bit dull if it's all one way. ///
In some cases I would agree but in this particular case I just thought it would be interesting to see how many of the 'OUTS' were now persuaded to change their mind about coming out of the EU.
But of course nothing is stopping the others from commenting about the changers David Cameron has come away with.
No, AOG. Not for me it hasn’t.
An "emergency brake" on migrants' in-work benefits for 4 years when there are "exceptional" levels of migration.
Who decides what is “exceptional”?
The UK will be able to operate the brake for 7 years.
Then after 7 years? A complete ‘free for all’ policy, maybe?
Mr. Cameron had wanted a complete ban on migrants sending child benefit home, but settled for it depending on the cost of living in their own country.
Everyone has their own reasons for whichever way they choose to vote, and there is, and will be scaremongering on both sides, but there is nothing that anyone can say or do to make me change my mind
An "emergency brake" on migrants' in-work benefits for 4 years when there are "exceptional" levels of migration.
Who decides what is “exceptional”?
The UK will be able to operate the brake for 7 years.
Then after 7 years? A complete ‘free for all’ policy, maybe?
Mr. Cameron had wanted a complete ban on migrants sending child benefit home, but settled for it depending on the cost of living in their own country.
Everyone has their own reasons for whichever way they choose to vote, and there is, and will be scaremongering on both sides, but there is nothing that anyone can say or do to make me change my mind
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