Master Of The Understatement !?...

[bazwillrun]

He (Boris) said the EU was eroding British sovereignty

eroding...heck no, destroying it and the country with it, to suit their own ends.

Why cant these outies just say it like it is...the eussr will not stop until our national sovereignty and ability to govern own affairs, rule our own country, make our own laws, decide who comes in and who doesnt is taken away from us, all powers taken from us to them and their empire...

why all these sideshow issues, cant they just get to the fundemental point that is that the country will at some point cease to exist as a country, it will be a province completely and totally ruled from brussells with the cabbage eaters at the helm, just as the plan has always been for decades...

[ichkeria]

I'm racking my brains to think when the real 'USSR' ever allowed a referendum for any of its republics to leave
Or, indeed, that occasion when it had a waiting list for new members

Anyway, carry on :-)

[Bigbad]

Presumably baz, because they have to choose their words more carefully than we do.
Can't afford to offend the easily offended, and end up being called bigots and racists!

[ichkeria]

You are not kidding :-)

[ToraToraTora]

Bozza is bang on, I am so delighted he's joined the pro British side.

[mikey4444]

TTT...there you go again !

[THECORBYLOON]

TORATORATORA, if the majority vote to remain in the EU, does that mean the majority of voters are anti-British?

[mikey4444]

Good question Corby !

[ToraToraTora]

there is a general tendency for the pro EU to be anti British, simple as that.

[THECORBYLOON]

Is that a "yes" then?

[ToraToraTora]

well it's not a pure assignment so no doubt many would vote to remain because they are persuaded by the doom mongers or perhaps are simply more comfortable with the status quo. As I said active pro EU campaigners are either anti British or have some selfish reason to stay. The latter cover most politicians. So that is why I say "tendency" because I cannot label them all as anti British per se.

[Zacs-Master]

So I'm either anti British or selfish? Not any suggestion that I could just be unconvinced that the 'out lobby haven't presented a reasonable case?

[tonyav]

But when pressed on the details of the deal he has secured with the rest of Europe, Mr Cameron admitted “we’re going to settle all that later”.


I wonder if 'later' is before or after the referendum.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/eu-referendum-david-cameron-still-does-not-know-how-migrant-benefits-brake-would-work/ar-BBpLWmj?li=BBoPWjQ

[New Judge]

“I'm racking my brains to think when the real 'USSR' ever allowed a referendum for any of its republics to leave”

It didn’t. And nor will the EuSSR in a Treaty or two’s time. National sovereignty will be eroded to such a degree that national Parliaments will not have the authority to organise a plebiscite (let alone act on its results) without the agreement of Brussels (which will not be forthcoming). Who would have forecast twenty years ago that a democratically elected government would have been usurped because it was elected on a platform that was contrary to Brussel’s edicts? Well it happened. So heed the warning. The Euromaniacs’ strategy is salami style – each step only a little more than the last "so it's no big deal". Well it is when you look at the start point and the end point.

[Zacs-Master]

Dive buddy. It's late I need some clarity. I was responding to Tora's garbled logic.

[ToraToraTora]

"So I'm either anti British or selfish? Not any suggestion that I could just be unconvinced that the 'out lobby haven't presented a reasonable case?" - well Zacs, I cannot imagine why any pro British unselfish person would want us governed by an unelected tyrannical foriegn power, I welcome any explanation.

[Zacs-Master]

Because I believe it will affect our business status and connections with other EU countries who will immediately think, why have they decided to do this? I haven't seen a logical explanation as to why business WONT be affected.

[Zacs-Master]

Divebuddy, I can't say I'm relishing watching the Conservative party disintegrate when they have everything on a plate at the moment. Jezza C must be laughing his wotsits off.