Why Do Soccer Supporters Find It So Difficult To Be Civilised?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/18/uefa-charge-manchester-united-liverpool-europa-league-trouble
I always want my team to win but I've never really got angry enough to commit violence at any game of any sport.

[Canary42]

Tribalism - getting more popular these days.

[VHG]

There is probably FAR LESS fighting inside football grounds than there is in most town centres on a Friday or Saturday night.

Hundreds of thousands of football fans attend matches every week and this is one of the few cases I have seen recently of a fight inside the ground.

In fact put thousands of people together at almost ANY event (new years eve party, firework display, pop concert etc) and there will probably be at least one fight.

So it is hardly a big "soccer" problem is it?

[ToraToraTora]

yes but other watchers of other games seem to manage canary.

[Ken4155]

You missed the word "some" from your header, TTT, as not ALL football fans find it hard to be civilised. Thugs hardly need an excuse to start trouble but those thugs wearing Liverpool colours last night were no doubt fuelled by the chants referring to the Hillsborough disaster from the first leg.

[mikey4444]

Its amazing to see how well behaved everybody was at Twickenham last weekend......Why can't soccer supporters learn from rugby supporters ?

Here in Wales, 10,000's of people attend rugby matches every weekend in the season, without causing any problems, and its not because ale is not consumed !

[ToraToraTora]

in rugby we are even grown up enough to have a pint in our seats mikey.

[Arksided]

Football is a passion for most supporters... who go and see their team play etc... banter is one thing... but those are just nob-heads. Every club has them.

[cupid04]

Some of them are not real supporters...they go just for the aggro

[mikey4444]

But why don't we see the same sort of supporters at rugby matches ?

I don't know about England but rugby in Wales is largely a working class sport and gets its supporters from the same strata of society as football supporters come from but hooliganism is practically unknown at rugby games.

I never been able to work that one out.

[tonyav]

Never any alcohol related problems at rugby matches !

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/wales-v-england-idiotic-fans-8599135

[Togo]

Cardiff City 'soul crew' mikey Welsh hooligan football 'fans'. If you were to add ars to their favoured self styled sobriquet you would have it.

[agchristie]

I had the misfortune to be at the 1980 Scottish Cup Final. What happened at the end of extra time was too frightening for words.

[douglas9401]

They secretly hate themselves for spending their hard earned cash on watching otherwise unemployable mouth breathers kick a ball about a park for an hour and a half, often with no result.

[-Talbot-]

Football supporters do not find it difficult to be civilised.



Let me use the old AB adage for this type of question.


There are no football hooligans, however ... there are hooligans who go to football matches!

[mikey4444]

Talbot....but why do these hooligans not go to rugby matches ?

[agchristie]

Mikey > but why do these hooligans not go to rugby matches ?

They do, they are sometimes found on the pitch - punch ups, spear tackles, eye gouging.....

[-Talbot-]

I always find it amazing how contradictory people can be.


There are no Muslim terrorists ... only terrorists who use Islam as an excuse!



Ring a bell?
(Also football is a far superior spectator sport to rugby)

[Svejk]

In this part of South Wales, back in the seventies when I was more attuned to these things, rugby boys was a synonym for troublemakers. If the owner of the Chinese restaurant wanted to describe troublemakers, he'd say, 'he lugby boy' 'they lugby boys'. Indeed, I knew many of them and they self identified as 'thugby boys'. Never seemed to get much trouble with football teams.
Of course, we're talking players rather than fans there.

[ummmm]

Not being a football fan I don't really understand it but I've seen many fights break out over football in pubs. Sometimes there wasn't even a match on, they were just discussing it...

[ToraToraTora]

Talbot: (Also football is a far superior spectator sport to rugby) . Rugby Football requires a much greater intellect than soccer to understand the finer points and enhance the viewing experience. Thus Soccer is seen as more entertaining to many without the nous to comprehend proper sports.