Did Anyone Watch The Eu Debate On Bbc Last Night?

[Bigbad]

What did you think?

[Peter Pedant]

// How many remember the UK and how it prospered pre EU? //

um no I dont actually
I don remember devaluation - 1967 - and the chancellor sunny jim [ crisis what crisis ? ] callaghan saying the pound in your pocket of course isnt devalued - to everlasting ridicule

stagflation - word has been revived this year - and for readers who reflexly ask " stag-what-shun ? " stagflation describes an economic situation not of blooming, and rising wages but instead - stagnation and inflation.

and inflation of 30% - recollect that the highest inflation was experienced during Thatcher's first administration (1979)

Oh, "in place of strife" - and Boobs Castle's humiliating climb down over the unions 1973 ( " Boobz Hoostle ? " I hear murmurs in the back ground )

Miners strike for political reasons -

no I dont look on the seventies as a Golden Age for a variety of reasons...

and certainly not of 'boom years'

Fifties and Harold MacMillan - you've never had it so good ! 1959
yeah possibly but it was marred by .... oh that is it .... an unsuccessful application to join the EU that Gen de gaulle * bless! * vetoed.

[anotheoldgit]

If some wish to be governed mainly by the EU, then perhaps we could get rid of most of our MPs, those in the House of Lords, and also most of our judiciary.

I wonder how much support the 'stay-ins' would get, from these redundants then?

[ToraToraTora]

Tambo:"Why do we bother voting a leading gov if EU hold control over us? " - you may well ask, at the moment we are allowed some autonomy in day to day issues but going forward that will be eroded to the point where the government will be irrelevant.Especially as we will be punished for having a referendum. That is the aim of the treacherous ABC, essentially they want to abolish Britain by subjugation. Shame many cannot see it.

[Bigbad]

TTT.
I am firmly in the leave camp, and have as much knowledge as everyone else does regarding the referendum. And despite always knowing which way to vote, I still like to see what other people base their opinions on.

So, yes, I thought the sound and length of the applause was greater for the remain side, but in my post at 6.38 I also gave other reasons why I am even more certain it will be a vote for stay, which basically amount to the young audience members not having much knowledge (holidays etc being affected) and petty reasons like mobile phone roaming prices.

You do many posts on the subject, but like everyone else, your opinions are based on conjecture, as nobody will know the full extent until it happens, so the stayers are more likely to agree with Cameron and the leavers with Johnson.

And, yes, I believe a stay vote means “going to hell in a hand cart”, but as I’m not a stayer, it won’t be because of people like me.
Try reading things properly before you comment!

[tamborine]

TTT IF EU liquidise us in line with their policies, our welfare, NHS & cost of living will be less attractive to future immigrants ? If we opt out & keep the above we will be inundated with immigrants.

[ToraToraTora]

conjecture perhaps, bigbad but I don't care, If I had to live in rags in a cave I'd rather do that than be under the jackboot of the EUSSR.

[Bigbad]

I agree with you, TTT.
I just wasn’t keen on the bit where you suggested I based ALL my knowledge on a clapometer, and that I am “what the politicians love.”
Quite the opposite actually. I’m sure the politicians would hate me , as I’m not taken in by all their sloblock!
I’d certainly rather vote based on my own conjecture than David Cameron’s!

Did you watch the programme?

[naomi24]

Bigbad, is this it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36393483

[Bigbad]

That's the one, naomi.

[ToraToraTora]

just how it came across big bad

[naomi24]

Thanks bigbad. If I have time I'll watch it later.

[Bigbad]

“I’m sorry to say”
“Do people REALLY believe”
“And, oh my goodness”

Not if you read it properly, TTT

[anotheoldgit]

/// Former SNP leader Alex Salmond has said he would expect another referendum on Scottish independence within two years of a Brexit vote, in a BBC EU debate. ///

That surely has to be a double whammy for Brexit supporters, come out of the EU and perhaps in two years time, we may also get rid of Scotland.

[ToraToraTora]

"i’m sorry to say that it’s made me even more certain that it will be a vote to stay.
The panel and audience members who spoke for staying in, got longer and louder applause than the leavers."
Seems clear to me you link your comment to the loudness of the applause and say that is what has "made me even more certain" - how can anyone tell beyond that sentence that it was something other than the enthusiasm of the audience? Hence my clapometer comment. I cannot know what you are thinking in total, it is down to you to get that across.

[Bigbad]

TTT
And it’s down to you to read an entire post before criticising and getting it wrong.

[ToraToraTora]

I did you got it wrong, you poorly portrayed yourself, I cannot know what you mean unless you tell me. Your post came across as being mainly effected by the audience, it that was wrong then you misrepresented yourself, I have read it several times now.

[Bigbad]

Nobody else appears to think so, and criticism of the way a post is worded is a bit rich coming from someone whose posts are regularly criticised by people who don’t understand the language you use!

[Baldric]

I've scanned the post, I guess I should have been guided by my first instinct, not to bother with a News Post without a link, they rarely go anywhere imo.

[Bigbad]

I didn’t bother with a link, Baldric, as the programme was an hour long, which is why I asked “Did anyone watch it”? And “What did you think”?

[trt]

## Why do we bother voting a leading gov if EU hold control over us? ##

Couldn't agree more tamborine.