Camoron Stoops Even Lower?

[youngmafbog]

Is there anything this man wont do to get his own way?

He has to go down as the worst PM ever surely?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3636046/Arise-Sir-Remain-Cameron-accused-tainting-Queen-s-birthday-honours-dishing-gongs-pro-EU-bosses.html

[naomi24]

Neuron, //The Tory voters simply don't know what to do now that Cameron has been shown to be an idiot.//

That is a figment of your imagination and it is exactly why I say that Mikey’s red mist is affecting you too. As I said before, if the vote goes against Mr Cameron’s wishes, he will probably go and he will be replaced by someone else, so why you say that Tory voters don’t know what to do is a mystery. What would you expect them to do? Few are desolate at the prospect of Mr Cameron’s potential departure because they didn't vote for the man, they voted for the party, and most are intelligent enough to understand that politicians are politicians and they all do what all politicians do. Again I cite Mr Corbyn’s duplicity.

//Brexit here we come!! //

I sincerely hope you're right.

[Togo]

//Naomi, no red mist I'm afraid. Mickey just like everyone else on AB is entitled to his opinion.//

Well said neuron, ...................now your next challenge is to tell him that everyone else is also. I see that you infrequently post on A.B. You should be doing so more often. I have not come across you on here before, but you seem be the type of voice that the site needs to prevent stagnation.

[naomi24]

neutron, /Does that bubble allow him to ignore the wishes of Tory supporters? //

I echo Ladybirder's question. What are the wishes of the Tory supporters?

[jourdain2]

Looking from the outside, ladybirder, it seems that an awful lot of them want Brexit and feel that Cameron has lied to and cheated them.

I am genuinely beginning to think that D Cameron is losing/has lost it. He seems to be spiralling inwards in a small bubble of his own - that way leads to madness. Very worrying.

[Jackdaw33]

What are the wishes of the Tory supporters?

Britain out, Cameron out, Boris in!

[tonyav]

If he DC were a football club manager he would be sacked, and the press would say that he lost the dressing room.

[naomi24]

Jackdaw, I can't speak for all of them, but neuron can.

[ladybirder]

As a Tory supporter I don't actually care whether Mr Cameron stays or goes. He's given us the referendum he promised and if the vote is Out and he goes then we have another leader and the Tories carry on. I voted for Tory policies, not Mr C.

[EDDIE51]

What is different? Those who support the ruling political party and its policies are rewarded with Honours. It has always been that way and always will be.

[naomi24]

Mikey, if you want a valid example of the "voice of common sense", look no further than Ladybirder's post at 22.33.

[neuron]

naomi, suffering from a red mist implies that a person has a feeling of extreme anger that temporarily clouds one's judgement. Rest assured, I have no anger. It is merely a question of waiting and believe me, I have ample patience to wait. The current unpopularity of Cameron will inevitably lead to his downfall. It remains only a question of time.

If Tory voters knew what to do, they would have done it. Right now, Tory voters may be seething with anger (perhaps they have the red mist?) but nothing is being done about it. Stop sitting on your hands folks and mobilise your MP to get that man out of No10 ASAP. Or perhaps you couldn't care less.

[neuron]

naomi, please don't post in frustration and inform fellow posters that I am capable of speaking for everyone.

It's very unbecoming.

[jourdain2]

My instincts are towards centrist conservatism and I would really, really hate to see the Conservative party destroyed - but this is what Cameron is going to do, honestly that is my feeling.

It is very worrying. Corbyn is unelectable by the majority - if the Tory vote dissolves then what is left?

We live in interesting (frightening) times.

[ladybirder]

I'm not seething with anger why should I be? Just patiently waiting for the results of the referendum and we shall see what happens afterwards.
I'm going to bed. Night all. x

[Togo]

//We live in interesting (frightening) times. //

I don't know whether you were aware also jourdain, but the old Chinese diplomatic curse was "May you live in interesting times". It was meant to signify that the speaker wished you no peace or comfort in your lifetime.

[jourdain2]

Yes, I was aware of that Togo. :)

[neuron]

Interesting. It seems evident that naomi24 and ladybirder are one and the same person in view of ladybirders last post.

That explains a lot. The need to back up one's opinion via a nom de guerre is most unseemly and as I understand it, is frowned upon on AB.

[neuron]

naomi24, at 2239 you referred to your own post at 2233 under the name ladybirder. Please explain.

I've never come across a person who refers to the self as the "voice of common sense". Under the circumstances, the credibility of posts from both usernames would seem to be under question. You really shouldn't support your own views a second time - it doesn't add any credence to the original post.

[Baldric]

Naomi didn't post @ 22:33, Ladybirder did, Have you tried Specsavers?

[neuron]

Baldric, I'd politely suggest you look again. At 2245 I posted a reply to naomi using the phrase "seething with anger". At 2303, ladybirder replied to me stating that said she was not "seething with anger".

Conclusion? naomi24 and ladybirder are one and the same.