Why Are The Bremainers Such Bad Losers?

[anotheoldgit]

On LBC radio last night, there was one presenter saying that those who voted Brexit had a reading and mental age of 8 year olds.

Another presenter stating that there was no country out of the EU who wishes to enter into a trade agreement with the EU, that does not also have to accept the free movement of EU citizens into their countries, quoting Norway and Switzerland.

This may be true for such countries as those two, but I think where the large trading UK is concerned we will be able to negotiate a better deal, they need us just as much as we need them.

He also stated that he hoped Parliament would reject the wishes of the those who voted in a democratic referendum, I wonder if he would be in the same frame of mind if the vote had gone the other way?

[jim360]

Some are, no doubt. And, to be fair, it's a pretty significant thing to lose. No five-year period of the other lot in office before another chance to reverse that. This one is meant to be permanent.

[Svejk]

They've moved from Project Fear to Project Sulk, aog.

[CrapAtCryptics]

As this has never happened before all those people are talking out of their posteriors - if they wanted to stay they should have got out of bed and voted. Personal abuse is always a sign they`ve lost the argument.

[Peter Pedant]

tyranny of the majority -
the sulking brexiters think that a big mistake has been made
which they want no part of
but .... lucky them they ARE part of

or as thingey said in 1739
they are ringing their bells - soon they will be wringing their hands ....
( outbreak of war of jenkins ear I think )

[Svejk]

If we had lost, I'd be keeping a low profile just now.

However, for years to come whenever someone on AB started moaning about something, I would consult my list and if they were on it, say 'Well, you voted for it, so it's no good moaning about things now'.

[NoMercy]

It's the 'slebs and their incessant twittering over their "devastation" which really gets up my crawl. Especially those born in or since the nineties.

[Gromit]

Whilst the 8 year old quip was an exaggeration, people with lower educational attainments were for Brexit.

http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/original-size/images/2016/06/blogs/graphic-detail/20160625_woc801_0.png

Those that trade with the EU but are not members, are in the European Economic Area (EEA). They are Norway, Liechtenstein, Iceland and Switzerland. They have all signed the Schengen Agreement. It is possible we could get into the EEA without agreeing to Schengen, but we are in a poor negotiating position.
EEA members pay EU membership fees (without any rebate), but do not have any say in policy or voting rights.

[Gromit]

Svejk,
'Project Sulk' :-)

[TTG]

Gromit - I disagree. I doubt the EU would issue clauses that would penalise the 5th largest economy in the world.

[zebo]

The obvious answer is For the same reasons that, had it gone the other way, the Brexit lot would be feeling angry, it's human nature. The issue of non-EU countries having to follow EU rules is well-known but was never well stated, the Norwegians can't even sell within Norway if their products do not meet EU rules.

[mushroom25]

it's being reported today that the originator of the referendum petition, william oliver healy, is a member of an obscure far right party that created the petition a month ago when he thought the remainiacs were going to win. (a simple maths check on the deadline statement on the petition would tend to support that).

so there was a petition belonging to a brexiteer that now most definitely has been hijacked by the opposition. lovely.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/683410/EXCLUSIVE-The-VOTE-LEAVE-backer-whose-petition-could-inadvertently-derail-the-Brexit

[Togo]

We got ourselves into the manacles and straightjackets imposed by the EUSSR precisely because we have allowed the "we know best" smug and self serving have their own way for decades. We have just rolled our eyes at the constant snipping and klaxon blowing they so favour, mainly because we have better things to do just living and getting by, therby letting them get their own way bit by bit. That just stopped, enough is enough. Like the churlish and sulky teenager, who stomps about in a strop when confronted,they will now have to respect our wishes and "rules".

[Gromit]

TTG,
You are right, they will still want to trade with us.
The European Economic Area is seen as the back door into the single market, which most people accept that we must remain a part of. But the tough talk from the Brexiters is that they want a better deal than EEA. The EU might just call our bluff and say the Single Market door is still open, but it is up to you whether you uae it.

[Svejk]

'the voice of common sense', togo. ;-)

[fiction-factory]

It's human nature to express disappointment. After the polls closed on Thursday night and BBC//ITV were predicting a narrow victory for Remain, there was Brexiter on here who was lamenting the clueless and the anti-British traitors.
Hopefully things will settle down on here and within our major parties and people will look forwards with the focus being on getting the best deal for UK now

[jim360]

While mushroom's right about the origin of the petition, it's not really been hijacked exactly, has it? The wording the original petitioner went for was "if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based on a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum". Since this is exactly what has happened, I assume that the original petitioner still supports it. Or was it only something to shout about if he lost? Wouldn't that make him a "bad loser", or just a sensible one considering the closeness of the outcome?

Funny old world, eh?

(I still haven't signed it, by the way, although it has now passed 3.1 million votes and growing at a rate of around 1,200 signatures a minute.)

[bazwillrun]

Being the fifth largest economy its hardly a surprise the eussr wanted to get its tentacles around us, to use us to prop up and support its ailing political dream...

nobody can yet explain why other countries would want to stop trading with the fifth largest economy...

and of course the other good news is that being out of the eussr , we cant be held to ransom by TTIP and the strangle hold deals it would do with the eussr

[bazwillrun]

"it has now passed 3.1 million votes and growing at a rate of around 1,200 signatures a minute."

and of course they are all legitimate "signatures"

[jim360]

"Being the fifth largest economy..."

The UK, at least briefly, slipped back to 6th on Friday.

[jim360]

Even if 10% of the signatures were illegitimate (and you need a valid email address and UK postcode to sign), it's still the largest petition on that site and larger than the next five largest by volume put together.

Doesn't mean anything unless it passes the number of votes cast on Thursday though. It's misdirected, but there is still plenty of passion on both sides about the result.