What Is Boris Up To

[Ric.ror]

He's not standing

[ToraToraTora]

but, gromit, it doesn't matter really because the ABT are doing their best to ignore the result anyway.

[anotheoldgit]

Very strange all this, although Boris was late in joining Brexit, he then became the leader, not accepting Farage to join in.

Then once we voted to come out, which in turn managed to get rid of Cameron.

He then finally withdrew his bid to become PM so leaving the path clear for May a pro-Eu candidate to bid for the position.

Makes one wonder if all this wasn't a planned conspiracy on behalf of the establishment?

[Gromit]

// the next elect is 2020, gromit, long way away. //

They will not risk another Referendum on accepting the New Deal. They might lose again. So they will call a quick election that the Conservatives can't lose. The 3 main parties will all campaign to accept the New Deal. Only UKIP will campaign for full Brexit. UKIP would have to get over 50% of the seats for Brexit to happen, and that will never happen.

[Jackdaw33]

I don't think May is as pro as people think. She backed Remain then promptly kept her mouth shut. Boris is not the only devious one floating around.

[jim360]

"Cameron encouraged us to expect that brexit would start world war three, are you saying he promised another war?"

While for sure the Remain campaign made a few howlers, this isn't really one of them. Cameron merely suggested that there would be an increased risk of destabilisation in Europe if we left the EU, and subsequently it broke up. This neither promises, nor gives reason to expect, World War III, and it was a massive misrepresentation of what he was saying. It's not clear that the risk is quantifiable anyway, let alone the change to it, but there was never a threat of WWIII.

[Jackdaw33]

The only way an election will happen in October is if either two thirds of the Commons vote to dissolve itself or the government engineers a vote of no confidence in itself, both very unlikely scenarios.

[ToraToraTora]

"They will not risk another Referendum on accepting the New Deal. They might lose again. So they will call a quick election that the Conservatives can't lose." - err no, they need 2 thirds to dissolve parliament and there are a lot of marginals, Labour are not exactly top of the pops, they wont want to risk their seats and if the public get a wiff this they'll vote UKIP in enough numbers to boot the lot of the traitors out. The current system is not set up for UKIP we know that but once you get to the tipping point, goodbye ABT, hello Nigel. the content of the commons know this and won't want to be out on their arises any quicker than they need to be. But even if you are correct is it not a disgusting dereliction to ognore the people in this way?

[ToraToraTora]

UKIP got 3.8m votes, what does 17.2m do to your calculations gromit? Those that voted brexit will no longer trust any of the parties, there only way will be to vote ukip, Goodbye Tories and Labour.

[Gromit]

The Conservatives, Labour, LibDems and SNP will easily get two thirds to trigger an election. Another Referendum will be avoided at all costs.

[Jackdaw33]

What planet are you on, Gromit? Labour and Libs, not to mention the SNP, voting for an election? Get real.

[ToraToraTora]

then the last referendum stands invoke A50 NOW

[naomi24]

Garaman, this is a silly argument. The Brexit camp made no promises. It was not in a position to make promises. It simply promoted the fact that by leaving the EU this country would no longer be constrained by EU rules – and if we do it, and do it properly, we won’t be constrained by EU rules. What’s the problem?

[Answerprancer]

What Is Boris Up To?
Doing us all a favour by the look of it.

[Bobsy]

Bottled it !!

[ToraToraTora]

gawd help us the brains trust has awoken.

[Gromit]

ARTICLE 50 WILL NOT BE INVOKED.

But the Conservatives do not want to be the ones to ignore the Referendum vote. The repercussions of Brexit will force all the other parties (except UKIP) to co-operate in accepting a New Deal.

[ToraToraTora]

but if they win an election they'll still be the ones ignoring it.

[Answerprancer]

If that was aimed at me, I was deliberately keeping clear of AB because I didn't want to stick around and witness the deluge of vomit-making smugness with the image of Farage's gurning slab of a face hovering in my mind's eye.

[ToraToraTora]

..so what changed your mind?

[Jackdaw33]

My, my, AP. We are waxing eloquent today.