Light At The End Of The Brexit Tunnel.....

[Zacs-Master]

Or just a train coming the other way?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/24/brexit-deal-free-movement-exemption-seven-years

[ichkeria]

Could be described as er, bad timing perhaps
If true we will see who are the Brexiters genuinely concerned with the undeniable issues of mass immigration, and who are those primarily motivated by a desire to destroy the EU.

[mikey4444]

If we had been offered 7 years exemption, would we have voted to leave ?

[Old_Geezer]

How is that light ?

Let's see ∞ years - 7 years = ∞ years.

Hmm ... we still seem to be a long way from the minimum acceptance of getting rid of this daft free movement demand. No; if that's all that's on offer we walk away from the table (or perhaps more practically, explain yet again that that's unacceptable (it was (one of) the main reason to get out) and ask whether we can discuss other parts and come back to it and reject the idiotic demand at the end).

[douglas9401]

More political shenanigans from Armani clad inadeqates.

There will be no split with the EU. Ever. Granting an initial seven year exemption will be proof of that.

[Old_Geezer]

"If we had been offered 7 years exemption, would we have voted to leave ?"

I thought you were more serious than that Mikey. Of course we'd vote to leave, it goes without saying. It doesn't return sovereignty at all. It is of near zero value.

[Svejk]

Still clutching at straws, I see.

[Old_Geezer]

As one reads further down the article one can see it describes the nightmare scenario of not officially being in the EU but having the costs and the demands still imposed. I can only assume some utter idiots are having a laugh proposing it and hoping it'll catch on.

Removing free movement is unchangable. It is a nation's right to decide who gets though it's borders. It is the rest that is up for discussion.

[Gromit]

So the plan is to stay in the Single Market.
We keep the same red tape, bureaucracy and £350million daily fee.
But we lose any say in the policies, voting and implementation.

Will we not be worse off?

[bazwillrun]

" It is a nation's right to decide who gets though it's borders. "

and borders are an anathema to the eussr as are nation states... "nations" will cease to exist as the eussr tightens its grip..there will be nothing but provinces or whatever new word the eussr comes up with to describe them...

[ichkeria]

Plainly we would not have voted to leave.
In my experience, broadly there were people who were 'sovereignty' fans and there were those who were worried about immigration, and quite often a member of one camp (particularly the former) would say that they were not bothered about the other.
A lot of it though was simply a fingers up to the 'establishment' as these things often are and why it was ludicrous to hold a referendum, though of course no politician was honest enough to admit that
Would still have swung it though
In 7 years time many of us may be desperate to migrate ourselves who knows

[youngmafbog]

/Plainly we would not have voted to leave. /

Can I borrow your crystal ball?

This is all more stuff and nonsense. Leaving is about much more than this.

[mikey4444]

OG...in the weeks before the Referendum, the most important issue for almost everybody I spoke to was immigration. Immigration was head and shoulders above any other issue.

[youngmafbog]

So I guess your cliche must represent the Nation as a whole then. Why do we bother with elections, lets form a Government from Mickeys mates.

[bazwillrun]

any exemptions/concessions given will be temporary at most...they will rescind any ever given at some point in the future..

you cannot have an empire with different rules for different people

[-Talbot-]

£350million daily fee.



?

[Zacs-Master]

'if that's all that's on offer we walk away from the table'. OG, we won't be invited to the table. Please familiarise yourself with the processes of A50.

It all smacks of some back room dealings to me. Quieten the anti immigration voters whilst still remaining part of the EU.

[Gromit]

That's the figure bandied about by the Leave campaigners, I never checked it.

EEA members, Norway, Iceland etc pay a fee to be part of the single market. That is worked out by the same formula that fixes our EU membership fee. So it will be the same.

[-Talbot-]

Gromit
That's the figure bandied about by the Leave campaigners, I never checked it.



I doubt they did.

[naomi24]

No deals whatsoever should be agreed on freedom of movement. That isn't what the 'Leavers' voted for.

[Zacs-Master]

The leavers voted knowing it wasn't a legal binding result. Or they should have.