Should These Children (I Won't Give Them The Benefit Of Calling Them British) Ever Be Allowed Back In Britain?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-training-children-of-foreign-fighters-to-become-next-generation-of-terrorists-a7162911.html

[EcclesCake]

So sad to see such exploitation.

[Zacs-Master]

Looks like 'current legislation' needs changing.

[Peter Pedant]

like father like son ?

is there any evidence that the children of Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness have followed the example of their violent fathers
or have they turned their backs on the troubles and decided that the future of Ireland lies elsewhere ?

kids arent robots ....

[Prudie]

i think if you looked you would find mountains of evidence that children follow the views of their parents. I have no idea what children those 2 have if any but I'd lay a bet that they grew up agreeing with the their politics, at least until some other group influenced them.

[ummmm]

PP...again, why are you bringing the Irish into it? There is no comparison so stoppit...

[jackthehat]

It's a knotty issue.
There certainly need to be hard and fast 'rules' and these need to be rigorously implemented.

[Zacs-Master]

Kids aren't robots.

I'll think you'll find these kids are the nearest thing.

[Peter Pedant]

// PP...again, why are you bringing the Irish into it? There is no comparison so stoppit...//

thank you umm (again )

if we believe that History has lessons to teach us - and we may not -
then it seems logical/OK/valid to look at time erm in the past
where a situation of violence has given rise to a time of peace and economic growth

and then decide if we can conclude anything from it .....

even you umm will have to concede that Ireland is a case in point ....

[ummmm]

No. You cannot compare. The IRA didn't send their children to terrorist school.

To answer the OP, I'd be very reluctant to ever let them back in.

[Peter Pedant]

// The IRA didn't send their children to terrorist school. //

so there were no "republican families" ? where the eager kids imbued the tales of yesteryear from grandparents ? If you tell me no then I will believe you

clearly the cycle has been broken ( in Ireland ) but it is useful ( to me at least ) to ask why this occurred...

[Zacs-Master]

Useful in what way PP?

[sandyRoe]

The Good Friday Agreement was signed in 1998. Some called it Sunningdale for slow learners. Sunningdale was an attempt at power sharing signed up to in 1973. Much of what now pertains was there for the taking then. The problem for it was that the masters of violence were outside the tent peeing in rather than inside with their snouts in the trough. Because of that we endured a further 25 years of violence. If Irish history teaches us anything it's that you won't make peace unless all the players are involved in the process.
The same probably applies to the Middle East.
The children featured in this report are probably no different from the child soldiers who have been dragooned in various militias across troubled parts of Africa.
They're victims.

[ToraToraTora]

Look at the article PP, they are kids being trained like the military. there is no parallel of that in Ireland. Is it trolling day for you or something?

[fiction-factory]

The IRA certainly had training camps.

[anotheoldgit]

sandyRoe

/// They're victims. ///

Who are intent on making us victims.

[fiction-factory]

I think the Real IRA has had them for some time and still has them.
2001 http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/six-jailed-over-real-ira-underground-training-camp-26094644.html

[-Talbot-]

Whilst everone else is skirting around giving an answer may I just say ...No.

[ToraToraTora]

ff "The IRA certainly had training camps. " - for 10 year old kids?

[EDDIE51]

Ummmm the IRA and the other paramilitary groups certainly did have training camps, children were taught from babyhood about the divide between Catholic and Protestants and told that the two must never mix or have any dealing with each other. Far from their being 'no comparison' There is a very close parallel between the situation in 1960's > 1980's Northern Ireland and the present problems between Muslim and Christian.