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Half Of Women 'sexually Harassed At Work' - Tuc Survey
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I heard this on the morning TV or at least until I turned over. I think a problem is a disagreement as to what is genuine harassment and what simply joshing about and building team relationships. Unwelcome jokes indeed. Whilst there is no agreement on what if normal interpersonal behaviour there will always be an issue. No one wants folk to find excuses for harassing another and making life unpleasant but on the other hand no one wants folk to be continually checking what they say or do all the time because some over-sensitive person is in the vicinity.
'no one wants folk to be continually checking what they say or do all the time because some over-sensitive person is in the vicinity'
This is what its like in the modern workplace, regardless of sex. There are people you can have banter with and people you can't. Really is a case of knowing the lay of the land.
This is what its like in the modern workplace, regardless of sex. There are people you can have banter with and people you can't. Really is a case of knowing the lay of the land.
It is not only women who are harassed at work.
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I suppose we really need to see the report
1500 as a sample is OK Dougie - there will be wobble on the figure of 50% [ confidence intervals or standard error]
harassment is what you feel - remember - and recall bias is obviously a problem - [ Q. did you feel harassed when Mikey wrote that thing last week ? A: yes yes I did ! It was AWFUL - I came over all peculiar I remember if as if it were today . creepy he is - my skin it almost crawled out of the room etc etc blah blah blah]
[ sorry a bit technical for chatterbank ]
1500 as a sample is OK Dougie - there will be wobble on the figure of 50% [ confidence intervals or standard error]
harassment is what you feel - remember - and recall bias is obviously a problem - [ Q. did you feel harassed when Mikey wrote that thing last week ? A: yes yes I did ! It was AWFUL - I came over all peculiar I remember if as if it were today . creepy he is - my skin it almost crawled out of the room etc etc blah blah blah]
[ sorry a bit technical for chatterbank ]
Naomi - //How serious the problem is depends upon what one perceives to be sexual harassment. The picture in the link shows a woman with a man's hand on her shoulder. I wouldn't necessarily consider that to be sexual harassment - but some would. //
That is the root of the issue.
Working with other people is about looking and listening and interpreting what you see and hear.
If a colleague clearly enjoys banter and gives as good as he or she gets, then you can probably indulge in some risqué exchanges.
If another colleage is clearly shy and doesn't join in, then they shouldn't be the butt of ribaldry.
That should steer people through the potential to offend unintentionally, which should be addressed immediately with an appropriate and sincere apology.
When someone is conducting a campaign of harassment, then that is an entirely different matter, and should be dealt with immediately and send a message that such behaviour is not tolerated.
That is the root of the issue.
Working with other people is about looking and listening and interpreting what you see and hear.
If a colleague clearly enjoys banter and gives as good as he or she gets, then you can probably indulge in some risqué exchanges.
If another colleage is clearly shy and doesn't join in, then they shouldn't be the butt of ribaldry.
That should steer people through the potential to offend unintentionally, which should be addressed immediately with an appropriate and sincere apology.
When someone is conducting a campaign of harassment, then that is an entirely different matter, and should be dealt with immediately and send a message that such behaviour is not tolerated.
// The picture in the link shows a woman with a man's hand on her shoulder.//
as an ex mgr - if there were a complaint about this I would take it seriously
[ like had it happened before - had he been told not to do it - were they alone blah blah blah - yes I would think 'dont I have anything better to do with my time ' and my line mgrs would be cock a hoop at a complaint such as this ( as they clearly DON'T have anything better to do )
as an ex mgr - if there were a complaint about this I would take it seriously
[ like had it happened before - had he been told not to do it - were they alone blah blah blah - yes I would think 'dont I have anything better to do with my time ' and my line mgrs would be cock a hoop at a complaint such as this ( as they clearly DON'T have anything better to do )
Naomi - //In my opinion some women are over-sensitive to the extent that they have everyone around them treading on eggshells. //
That's probably true.
I recall being asked to hide a copy of FHM magazine left on my desk after work because the cleaner found it offensive! I am happy to limit the exposure of my reading material if any of my colleagues object, but I don't see how I can legislate for someone who sees it when I am not present, and whom I have never met!
That's probably true.
I recall being asked to hide a copy of FHM magazine left on my desk after work because the cleaner found it offensive! I am happy to limit the exposure of my reading material if any of my colleagues object, but I don't see how I can legislate for someone who sees it when I am not present, and whom I have never met!
I think ^^ is right.
Unfortunately, some people take the idea of sexual harassment just too far. I once worked in an office where a woman joined the team and every single little thing was harassment, victimisation, inappropriate etc. The entire department ended up walking on eggshells for fear of offence. What had once been a fun and happy team turned into a doom laden atmosphere where no one dare speak for fear of inviting the wrath of the serial complainer. Thankfully she flounced off one day and a collective sigh of relief was had by all.
Unfortunately, some people take the idea of sexual harassment just too far. I once worked in an office where a woman joined the team and every single little thing was harassment, victimisation, inappropriate etc. The entire department ended up walking on eggshells for fear of offence. What had once been a fun and happy team turned into a doom laden atmosphere where no one dare speak for fear of inviting the wrath of the serial complainer. Thankfully she flounced off one day and a collective sigh of relief was had by all.
mikey4444
/// That link is a bit old AOG ! But nobody every sexually harassed me. ///
Have you any proof that matters have altered in 8 years mikey?
I am sorry to hear of your lack of sexually harassment mikey, I was recently sexually harassed in my local supermarket, but being a male I didn't make a big deal over it.
/// That link is a bit old AOG ! But nobody every sexually harassed me. ///
Have you any proof that matters have altered in 8 years mikey?
I am sorry to hear of your lack of sexually harassment mikey, I was recently sexually harassed in my local supermarket, but being a male I didn't make a big deal over it.
I think this is another issue where new words have been made up for old issues
Failing to see when someone is made uncomfortable by one’s behaviour = insensitivity/boorishness.
Continuing in the behaviour when you know its making someone uncomfortable = bad manners.
Deliberately behaving in a way that will hurt and upset others = bullying
I would argue that it doesn’t matter whether the subject is sex/gender related, religious, racial or any other thing, its all boorishness, bad manners or bullying.
Failing to see when someone is made uncomfortable by one’s behaviour = insensitivity/boorishness.
Continuing in the behaviour when you know its making someone uncomfortable = bad manners.
Deliberately behaving in a way that will hurt and upset others = bullying
I would argue that it doesn’t matter whether the subject is sex/gender related, religious, racial or any other thing, its all boorishness, bad manners or bullying.
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