As France Bans The Burkini, Scotland Just Opened Doors For Muslim Women

[THEMOTLEY1]

http://metro.co.uk/2016/08/24/as-france-bans-the-burkini-scotland-just-opened-doors-for-muslim-women-6088459/

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/000_app2001051648349-810x542-1.jpg?w=620&h=414&crop=1

[andy-hughes]

sp1814 - //When some commentators talk about 'fitting in', they're talking about fitting in to a society that doesn't exist any more. They're talking about the 50s. //

If that was a time when white men - and just men - had a say on what went on in the country, and the 'ethnics' knew their place, then yes, they'd love it to be like that.

But it's not, and they spend their lives in bilious hatred and fear and paranoia, and lord, it must be hard work to be that angry all day every day.

[jackthehat]

///Those selected to protect us should be the finest,well trained,motivated and skilled people.///

And I, for one, see it as rather refreshing that these Muslim women had the initial self-belief to apply to become police officers and the requisite skills to pass the course successfully.

After all, as SP has already said, it's a pretty demanding and thankless job...

[Islay]

Its seems to me that some people should be uttering the following words

'Women know your place, Muslim women you have no place'

They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

[agchristie]

Islay - I don't think it is Muslim women per se,it is the impact of the uniform that is the crux of the discussion.

[Just-Jude]

'Women know your place, Muslim women you have no place'

That statement is usually made by Muslim men

[andy-hughes]

Just-Jude - //'Women know your place, Muslim women you have no place'

That statement is usually made by Muslim men //

Have you ever heard that said by a Muslim man?

Have you ever actually heard a Muslim of any gender say anything about their faith and culture.

I freely admit that I know little about Islam, and am roundly pilloried by lofty 'experts' for daring to express a view, but at least it means I am not prone to crashingly clichéd statements that I cannot possibly sustain.

[Islay]

Just jude - reading the posts on AB recently it is being uttered by Muslim hating men and women more and more.

These ladies should be applauded instead they are being derided by those that claim to know everything there is to know about Islam!

[Just-Jude]

The security services have been warning us for years about the threat of home grown Muslim terrorism, yet we are inviting them to join the police.

Their loyalties are with their bomb making friends who will be delighted by this massive breach of security.

[naomi24]

Islay, //These ladies should be applauded //

Why these ladies in particular?

[andy-hughes]

Islay - //Just jude - reading the posts on AB recently it is being uttered by Muslim hating men and women more and more.

These ladies should be applauded instead they are being derided by those that claim to know everything there is to know about Islam! //

A fair point well made.

I do wonder if any of the people who daily spout the most appallingly racist and sexist nonsense on here ever think about what they say, and what it says about them.

The level of vitriol and negativity that pervades any and all threads that involve Muslims is really quite debilitating - but it falls to others to provide some level of balance and humanity, and thankfully they are more than equal to the task.

[andy-hughes]

Just Jude - //Their loyalties are with their bomb making friends who will be delighted by this massive breach of security. //

I refer you to my previous post - do you read this stuff on the back of matchboxes?

[Just-Jude]

andy-hughes, I know nothing about Islam either, but I have a feeling they don't like us.

[naomi24]

^HaHa! He's a card! :o)

[naomi24]

^That was re andy-hughes at 14:04.

[andy-hughes]

Just-Jude - //andy-hughes, I know nothing about Islam either, but I have a feeling they don't like us. //

Based on what exactly?

Terrorism? That's not Muslims that Muslim fanatics - you and I both know, from our mutually limited knowledge, that they are not the same thing.

I manage to live my daily life unimpeded by any 'dislike' from any Muslims, and I suspect everyone else on here, including the haters, do exactly the same.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //I manage to live my daily life unimpeded by any 'dislike' from any Muslims, //

No surprise really. You only know one - and he's the bloke who cuts your hair.

[Just-Jude]

andy-hughes, I get my info from Christmas crackers, but Muslims wouldn't know about that, except for the bang.

[THEMOTLEY1]

//I freely admit that I know little about Islam//
and yet you still expect your opinion, the opinion based on little knowledge to be taken seriously.

[Islay]

AH may know only one but I know many and work with many, and I find a lot of your posts totally insulting and inciting racial distrust.

[naomi24]

Islay, really? Why? Have I said anything that can't be supported?