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The Bbc Racist, Surely Not?
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I suspect Mr Fraser is Scottish. Is it possible to be racists, against ones own race?
Seems he's a bit of a controversial character
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Seems he's a bit of a controversial character
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hard to say. The other examples cited as getting people into trouble seem to couple Jock with some derogatory adjective - useless jock, sweaty little jock. In those cases, insults were clearly intended. Not so here. People are probably being oversensitive. It doesn't sound like a "colonial attitude" to me.
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/// hard to say. The other examples cited as getting people into trouble seem to couple Jock with some derogatory adjective - useless jock, sweaty little jock. In those cases, insults were clearly intended. ///
Would the same apply if a non British were to use these terms "useless Brit", "Sweaty little Brit"?
Insults yes, but racist insults?????????????
/// hard to say. The other examples cited as getting people into trouble seem to couple Jock with some derogatory adjective - useless jock, sweaty little jock. In those cases, insults were clearly intended. ///
Would the same apply if a non British were to use these terms "useless Brit", "Sweaty little Brit"?
Insults yes, but racist insults?????????????
Jock...racist? What arrant nonsense! I have lived for nigh on eight decades and have never felt anything but pride when the word has been used to refer to me. Here on AnswerBank, I myself have often used it to include me and my compatriots.
The word is just a friendly Scottish variant of John, just as Taff is a friendly variant of David (or its Welsh equivalent) and Paddy is a friendly variant of Patrick. Why would anyone, other than a plonker determined to be offended, find any of these derogatory?
I most certainly will never stop using it.
The word is just a friendly Scottish variant of John, just as Taff is a friendly variant of David (or its Welsh equivalent) and Paddy is a friendly variant of Patrick. Why would anyone, other than a plonker determined to be offended, find any of these derogatory?
I most certainly will never stop using it.
The Oxford English Dictionary:
Jock
"A by-form of the name John
A Scotsman or a member of a Scottish regiment
Any Scotsman, frequently as a nickname."
Clearly, the name Jack was a middle version between John and Jock. My quote above is from the printed version of the OED which dates from the mid-1980s. Consequently, any notion that it might be offensive is a very recent development, given that the OED does not even mention that.
I will remain perfectly happy to go on using it in exactly the way I always have and let "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" or whoever else objects just get on with it!
Jock
"A by-form of the name John
A Scotsman or a member of a Scottish regiment
Any Scotsman, frequently as a nickname."
Clearly, the name Jack was a middle version between John and Jock. My quote above is from the printed version of the OED which dates from the mid-1980s. Consequently, any notion that it might be offensive is a very recent development, given that the OED does not even mention that.
I will remain perfectly happy to go on using it in exactly the way I always have and let "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" or whoever else objects just get on with it!
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