Cannot Be Named Because Of Age ????

[fbg40]

Today, two 15 year old "children" were found guilty of murdering a mother and her daughter. The male admitted guilt from the start, the girl was found guilty at her trial. Why is it that they cannot be named ? Surely they give up all rights to anonymity when they they commit the crime ! As far as I'm concerned, it should be name and shame. The law in this case is an ass !!
FBG40

[jackthehat]

They may be murderous minors......but they are minors nevertheless.

It doesn't require a great deal of brain-power to work out who they are...

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// It doesn't require a great deal of brain-power to work out who they are... ///

Please give those less fortunate than you, the names and identity of these two 'minors'?

[jno]

reminds me of the murderers in the true-life Heavenly Creatures. In real life they were given new identities: one became a writer of crime books (the other works with horses or something). A horrible crime, born out of a weird toxic friendship, but both have served their time and become useful members of society rather than being kept in jail at society's expense forever. I think that's a good outcome.

[jno]

are you kidding, aog? It hardly seems a subject worth kidding about.

[dunnitall]

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the two who murdered James Bulger younger than these two but they were named at the time?

[Barmaid]

//Please give those less fortunate than you, the names and identity of these two 'minors'? ?//

JtH knows better than that. There are reporting restrictions imposed as a result of a Court Order. Anyone publishing their names anywhere (until such restrictions are lifted) will potentially be subject to contempt of court proceedings.

[jackthehat]

No, AOG.

If their names have been withheld it will be for good reason and I'm not about to contravene the law.

Quite, jno; *folie à deux* doesn't usually end so tragically, but in keeping the protagonists apart, it is to be hoped that there would be no repetition.

[Booldawg]

'Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the two who murdered James Bulger younger than these two but they were named at the time? '

Yes, you're right. The level of public condemnation tends to sway this law.

[jno]

that's what happened in the Heavenly Creaures case, jack; I read somewhere that they've never seen each other again since the verdict came back.

Brilliant film.

[ummmm]

And the killers of James Bulger got the law changed about the age of criminal responsibility.

[ToraToraTora]

they cannot be named because in this country criminal scum are more important than the rest of us.

[jackthehat]

It was.....an early Kate Winslet,too.

Didn't it happen down in your neck of the woods? :o)

[jno]

it's not becasue they're criminal scum, it's because they're minors. Is this so hard to understand?

[anotheoldgit]

Barmaid/jno

Just making a justifiable enquiry.

It was JTH's insinuation that one has a lesser brain power if one cannot work out who they are.

[Barmaid]

It IS possible the restrictions will be lifted at sentence. Much depends on the circumstances - there may well be siblings etc.

[jno]

I visited there once shortly after the earthquake, jack - but a long time after the crime.

[ToraToraTora]

not surprising that jno, not a sincere bone in his body, is defending these lowlives. The age of criminal responsibility is 10, they qualify for prosecution they should dam well be named, end of.

[ummmm]

AOG - most things become common knowledge with the use of the internet.

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// it's not becasue they're criminal scum, it's because they're minors. Is this so hard to understand? ///

And can't there be 'criminal scum minors'?

Or even 'minor criminal scum' for that matter?

But then I wouldn't put these two under that last heading.

[jackthehat]

///It was JTH's insinuation that one has a lesser brain power if one cannot work out who they are///

That is in your own head, AOG.

I didn't claim to have superior brain-power, I just commented that it wouldn't take much of anyone else's.

Have you worked it out yet?

What difference does it actually make if we were to be told their names?