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I have just skimmed the highlights of last nights debate, and Trump appears to have fallen into the abyss. He hasn't even said that he will accept the result of the Election when he loses. He came over last night as a very shouty, quarrelsome man, always interrupting Hilary and the Moderator.
What a horrible man.
What a horrible man.
I didn't see it, but I read a report of it. This farce is becoming daily more bizarre.
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//He hasn't even said that he will accept the result of the Election when he loses//
Of course if you had wanted to hear what was meant his son clarified it very clearly in the spin room after.
"If it is a fair fight we will accept it, if not then we wont".
I would suspect Clintons camp would do the same, they just dont have the balls to say it.
If you think Western voting is without rigging then think again, we know it happens here, in some areas of the US it must be very difficult to Police.
Of course if you had wanted to hear what was meant his son clarified it very clearly in the spin room after.
"If it is a fair fight we will accept it, if not then we wont".
I would suspect Clintons camp would do the same, they just dont have the balls to say it.
If you think Western voting is without rigging then think again, we know it happens here, in some areas of the US it must be very difficult to Police.
"If it is a fair fight we will accept it, if not then we wont".
That's all well and good but how do you think Trump defines a "fair" election? Especially the day after the vote, when in the worst case scenario allegations of wrongdoing are still being investigated. It's pretty obvious that Trump's definition of a "fair" race is one he wins. Certainly, I can pretty much guarantee that his whole "this election is rigged" line will disappear overnight if he wins and he won't say a thing about it. And if you don't believe me, ask him after he won (or started to win) the Republican nomination. Before that, he was complaining about how flawed the process was (and sometimes even had a point, although he overstated the issues). But once he won? ...
"You'll have heard me before say that this election is rigged but now that I'm winning I don't say it any more. You know? I mean I don't care anymore! I don't care."
And so it will be in November. The entire line about rigged elections betrays an utter contempt for the democratic process.
That's all well and good but how do you think Trump defines a "fair" election? Especially the day after the vote, when in the worst case scenario allegations of wrongdoing are still being investigated. It's pretty obvious that Trump's definition of a "fair" race is one he wins. Certainly, I can pretty much guarantee that his whole "this election is rigged" line will disappear overnight if he wins and he won't say a thing about it. And if you don't believe me, ask him after he won (or started to win) the Republican nomination. Before that, he was complaining about how flawed the process was (and sometimes even had a point, although he overstated the issues). But once he won? ...
"You'll have heard me before say that this election is rigged but now that I'm winning I don't say it any more. You know? I mean I don't care anymore! I don't care."
And so it will be in November. The entire line about rigged elections betrays an utter contempt for the democratic process.
mikey - //He came over last night as a very shouty, quarrelsome man, always interrupting Hilary and the Moderator. //
Donald is not comfortable outside Donald's world.
Money and power always exacerbate the worst character traits in anyone, and Donald is no exception.
Donald is used to being windy all day every day, he is all transmit and no receive.
That's fine - because in the Trump empire, Donald speaks and everyone listens, and no-one says much at all, certainly nothing like Hang on Donald, you're talking through your quiff again ...
But out here in the real world, people can and do challenge what Donald says, and he is utterly unprepared for it.
That makes him frightened, which in turn makes him angry.
Things are not going his way, so he already has a culprit lined up - the corrupt electoral system propped up by the corrupt media.
So when Donald loses - and he will, he can get windy all over again about how everyone else is wrong.
But by then, no-one will care, so he can go back to Trump Towers and get on with whatever it was he did before he hit on the notion of playing in a bigger game show than The Apprentice.
Donald is not comfortable outside Donald's world.
Money and power always exacerbate the worst character traits in anyone, and Donald is no exception.
Donald is used to being windy all day every day, he is all transmit and no receive.
That's fine - because in the Trump empire, Donald speaks and everyone listens, and no-one says much at all, certainly nothing like Hang on Donald, you're talking through your quiff again ...
But out here in the real world, people can and do challenge what Donald says, and he is utterly unprepared for it.
That makes him frightened, which in turn makes him angry.
Things are not going his way, so he already has a culprit lined up - the corrupt electoral system propped up by the corrupt media.
So when Donald loses - and he will, he can get windy all over again about how everyone else is wrong.
But by then, no-one will care, so he can go back to Trump Towers and get on with whatever it was he did before he hit on the notion of playing in a bigger game show than The Apprentice.
To me, it beggars belief that from the whole political spectrum they've been boiled down to these two:
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It is a damning indictment on American politics and their electorate.
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It is a damning indictment on American politics and their electorate.
I don't know whether people are stupid or acting stupid or are blinkered.
Trump was asked about the women who have come forward to say he had accosted them, at the same time Clinton was asked to address the accusation against her husband and why she defends him.
Trump as expected used his 2 minutes to say ''it's all lies'
Hillary used her 2 minutes to once again tell us about how Trump hates women. ... no mention of Bill and her lack of condemnation for his actions.
Brushed under the carpet once more.
Trump was asked about the women who have come forward to say he had accosted them, at the same time Clinton was asked to address the accusation against her husband and why she defends him.
Trump as expected used his 2 minutes to say ''it's all lies'
Hillary used her 2 minutes to once again tell us about how Trump hates women. ... no mention of Bill and her lack of condemnation for his actions.
Brushed under the carpet once more.
Talbot - //I don't know whether people are stupid or acting stupid or are blinkered.
Trump was asked about the women who have come forward to say he had accosted them, at the same time Clinton was asked to address the accusation against her husband and why she defends him.
Trump as expected used his 2 minutes to say ''it's all lies'
Hillary used her 2 minutes to once again tell us about how Trump hates women. ... no mention of Bill and her lack of condemnation for his actions.
Brushed under the carpet once more. //
I believe that Trump trotting out President Clinton's wrongs and trying to use them against his wife is a flawed position.
If Mrs Tump was caught shop-lifting it would be wrong, but should that impact on Mr Trump's candidacy?
A candidate's partner's historical behaviour - however misjudged we may think it is - should not be an issue for the candidate in an election.
Trump was asked about the women who have come forward to say he had accosted them, at the same time Clinton was asked to address the accusation against her husband and why she defends him.
Trump as expected used his 2 minutes to say ''it's all lies'
Hillary used her 2 minutes to once again tell us about how Trump hates women. ... no mention of Bill and her lack of condemnation for his actions.
Brushed under the carpet once more. //
I believe that Trump trotting out President Clinton's wrongs and trying to use them against his wife is a flawed position.
If Mrs Tump was caught shop-lifting it would be wrong, but should that impact on Mr Trump's candidacy?
A candidate's partner's historical behaviour - however misjudged we may think it is - should not be an issue for the candidate in an election.
I actually woke in time for the very end, where the moderator was asking them to sum up in me minute why America should choose them as president.
He asked them to try at least to be positive. Clinton delivered a slick, some might say sickly, but expert piece, using more or less the whole 60 seconds.
Trump started his ok, but within seconds it had degenerated into a nasty, negative swipe at his opponent. And petered out well before the time. Had I been a visitor from Mars, or an undecided voter, I know who I would have been more attracted by.
Trump is more toast than Hovis :-)
He asked them to try at least to be positive. Clinton delivered a slick, some might say sickly, but expert piece, using more or less the whole 60 seconds.
Trump started his ok, but within seconds it had degenerated into a nasty, negative swipe at his opponent. And petered out well before the time. Had I been a visitor from Mars, or an undecided voter, I know who I would have been more attracted by.
Trump is more toast than Hovis :-)
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