Article 50

[Quizmonster]

Parliament - not just Government - has a say in enacting Article 50, according to the High Court's decision just announced.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/03/parliament-must-trigger-brexit-high-court-rules

[mikey4444]

A good, detailed explanation about the effect of this court action today, from the BBC's Assistant Political Editor :::::

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37857875

[ludwig]

If only the stupid public hadn't given the 'wrong' answer in the first place, it would have saved parliament all this trouble of finding ways to ignore it.
How selfish of us.

[ludwig]

If only the stupid public hadn't given the 'wrong' answer in the first place, it would have saved parliament all this trouble of finding ways to ignore it.
How selfish of us.

[gulliver1]

I can see a second referendum ahead,the gbp has risen already since the announcment, I think the answer will be remain this time.

[ichkeria]

It's not as simple as just 'exiting' though as we all know.
You don't just tip your hat say 'bye' and walk out the door.
Even a so-called 'hard brexit', which won't happen anyway, would not mean that

[naomi24]

Jim, //Well, this could be fun//

Really? Strange idea of fun.

[Togo]

Remember today, the day that democracy in Britain died. We are indeed ruled by the self serving lawyers. Proof if ever it was needed of the impending new world order where millions are enslaved by a few.

[weecalf]

So instead of yes or no it near or yeah after millions debating it .This time debate it but don't charge the taxpayer for it .

[naomi24]

Togo, //Remember today, the day that democracy in Britain died. //

You're right .... and here we have people applauding it. :o(

[Old_Geezer]

One pretty much does ichy, although one hopes that the negotiations for the trade agreements (etc.) would be agreed by then. They have two years. But if they are not then why should we delay further; negotiations can continue afterwards; and the urgency would focus the minds of any making foolish demands for impositions. Meanwhile there is no reason not to trigger article 50, so the sooner the irrelevant formalities are done the sooner we can get on.

[Togo]

The turkeys are indeed looking forward to Christmas Naomi.

[weecalf]

Mark Twain I think said .If voting was so important they would not let us do it or words to that effect .True or what

[jim360]

Overly dramatic and then some, Togo.

Naomi, I'm being more than a little sarcastic, as you probably knew really. The fallout from this ruling is obviously huge, as it suddenly leaves the door open for Parliament to refuse to grant permission to withdraw from the EU. I honestly don't know if it should, or not -- but the fact remains, though, that this is a reaffirmation of democracy, and not the death of it. Why? Because we have a parliamentary democracy in this country, whose views David Davis was seeking to ignore and run roughshod over in a way that is, in the court's view, utterly incompatible with the UK's constitutional law. Either that, or Brexiters reject the idea of parliament as ever being democratic -- and yet, this was the body they were seeking to vest more power in. A starker contradiction you could not find, and the court clearly identified this and acknowledged it, while dismissing Davis' position in, almost, its entirety.

[Islay]

Well, well, well!

[mikey4444]

Togo....just the opposite ! Today Democracy is strengthened, by this legal ruling ::::

"The High Court has ruled that the government needs Parliament's approval to trigger the process of the UK leaving the European Union"

So, Parliament will decide Britain's future. Exactly what we should all be wanting......... democracy upheld by the law of the land, and administered by Parliament.

[mikey4444]

Well said Jim !

[youngmafbog]

providing Parliament abides by the will of the people and not in their own interest. Unfortunately some will see it as a way of ignoring the majority who voted the wrong way and 'correcting' that wrong decision.

[youngmafbog]

//I can see a second referendum ahead,the gbp has risen already since the announcment, I think the answer will be remain this time.//

Rally? GDP incresed in a couple of hours?

Perhaps you need to look up what GDP is. In actual fact the GDP up will be a reflection that Project Fear was wrong.

[Togo]

Who thinks that, had the referendum delivered a remain vote, it would have been decided by the lawyers that it needed to go back to parliament for MPs to have a second mini referendum? Perhaps even the most rabid supporters of the pyramid scheme will see the dangers in allowing a judge to run the Country, thereby voting themselves into insignificance. As I said turkeys voting for Christmas. Do you think the rancid lawyers will stop here if they get their way? If so more fool you.

[mikey4444]

This may even cause an early Election, according to this link :::

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37861456

A quote from above :::

"And with a tiny majority in Parliament and most MPs having argued Remain, this judgement spells real trouble for ministers"

This is the dichotomy that faces Parliament.....most MP's, including Mrs May voted to REMAIN, while a small majority of the 72% Referendum turnout, vote to leave.