Straight Question For Zacs And The Other Remainiacs...

[ToraToraTora]

Ignoring all the dilly dallying since June 23rd. Do you personally think that ultimately the result of the referendum should be implemented?

[ToraToraTora]

eversheds? what link?

[Zacs-Master]

Tora, I've given you honest answers now would you give me a couple to these Qs:
1. Do you think due legal process should be ignored?
2. Do you admit that articles were around prior to the vote, which demonstrated the tricky legal position we would face in the event of a leave vote?

[Zacs-Master]

10:49 Tora. Just proves you don't read my answers thoroughly.

[ToraToraTora]

TCL: "TTT, had the decision gone the other way, what would your reaction have been? Oh, that's right, the Remainers were traitors and collaborators... " - I would have moaned, a lot, probably but I would have respected it. I certainly would not be running around talking semantic bowlocks to try and find a way to ignore it. I would not be going to the high court to try and thwart the will of the people, I would not be demanding a rerun.

[weecalf]

Thought about it and have decided we are staying .so that's that .If we had been going we would have went by now .Next ref along soon .Should the BBC have adverts .

[THECORBYLOON]

TTT, where was YOUR respect for "the democratic will of the people" when you thought the result had gone the other way?

[Gromit]

People have short memories.

A week before the Referendum all the Leavers were saying there would have to be a second referendum if the result was 52-48 close.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36306681

Now we get all this codwallop about the will of the people, even it was a minority of the electorate that voted out.

[ToraToraTora]

Zacs: 1. Not now it has been established, the Government should put a non amendable bill before the house to invoke A50 ASAP and get this over with. Then you'd happy I assume.
2. No because they have recently been interpreted by the judges. Until then this had no precedent and Law in this country is mostly precedent.

[ToraToraTora]

ZM:"10:49 Tora. Just proves you don't read my answers thoroughly. " - I have a semantic BS filter I'm afraid it must have filtered it out."

[THECORBYLOON]

TTT how can you honestly say you would have respected the "traitors" and "collaborators", do you expect us to believe that?

[ToraToraTora]

TCL: "TTT, where was YOUR respect for "the democratic will of the people" when you thought the result had gone the other way? " - did you read my post at 11:10? yes I would have moaned but I would have accepted it.

[EDDIE51]

Yes.

[ToraToraTora]

TCL: how many more times? I would have respected the result. That would not change my view of the remainers, I would have accepted the will of the majority.

[Zacs-Master]

1. Is a 'non amendable bill' an actual thing?

2. I'm not sure how you can answer 'no' when the link is from 16th June.

As for a 'semantic BS filter'.......

[THECORBYLOON]

You respect traitors and collaborators?????

[ToraToraTora]

I respect their right to have their view. It does not change my view of them.

[EDDIE51]

The worst aspect of this entire INOUT business is the hostility and confrontation it has caused on this site and in the general population.
I have been called a 'Traitor' and accused of being 'a millionaire with my snout in the trough' Both of which could NEVER be further from the truth !!
I just want it over so that we can get on with other issues.

[ToraToraTora]

the meaning was only judged last week ZM.

[Zacs-Master]

From the pre vote Evershed article:
'In the event of a UK vote to leave the EU, it not absolutely clear what would happen and when.

'The UK courts have confirmed that UK law must be interpreted in compliance with EU laws. Judgments of UK courts and judgments of the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) on such EU laws are relevant and binding in the UK. Even though not codified by legislation, those decisions form part of the UK’s body of law.'

'Proposals to sweep away or strip back such laws are likely to face challenges from individuals and pressure groups who believe in the fundamental importance of the relevant legislation and who have become accustomed to exercising their rights under such laws.'

The above is, strictly speaking, directly relevant to privacy and information law but it demonstrates that the result of a leave vote was complex and far beyond the understanding of the man in the street, myself included. This is a major factor in why I voted remain. Many people were hoodwinked into thinking Brexit was about fundamental principles when in fact it was about much more complex issues.

[ToraToraTora]

so you voted remain because you thought it would be difficult to leave? Speaks volumes.