Fund For Murdered Truck Driver

[naomi24]

A British lorry driver has set up a fund for the family of Lukasz Urban, the Polish truck driver murdered by the madman who subsequently drove the vehicle into a Berlin Christmas Market.

If you would like to donate go to www.gofundme.com/van9vwuk

[naomi24]

https://www.gofundme.com/van9vwuk

[fiction-factory]

It's probably going to be a good cause (as would any fund for any victims of this atrocity) but given the confusion over events and different stories issued by the police and news outlets in the first hours and days some might want to wait a bit until they feel there is more certainty about what happened.

[naomi24]

fiction-factory, I don't think there is any doubt this man was murdered by the hijacker.

[fiction-factory]

I haven't seen the latest news yet. If it has been established beyond reasonable doubt that his identity has been confirmed 100%, he was working legally, he was not complicit in any way in the handing over of the lorry, and he was killed by the murderer (not sure madman is the best term) then that is fine for me- particularly if it is known he stayed in there in order to stop the murderer and try to save lives.

[naomi24]

fiction-factory, If you aren't happy to donate, don't. Not difficult is it.

[fiction-factory]

Maybe you want to read my replies again.

[fiction-factory]

And thank you for letting us know about the site.

[naomi24]

fiction-factory, you’re welcome, but no, I don't want to read your replies again. I didn't post this to provoke discussion.

[fiction-factory]

Okay- it's just that your tone is rude and patronising sometimes -eg "not difficult is it". But good luck with raising awarenesss. I assumed you wanted comments but maybe not

[naomi24]

fiction-factory, my faults are many - allegedly.

[Islay]

Wonder if people would be so quick to raise funds had the Polish gentleman been working over here - seens as many as in a hurry to get rid of them!

[douglas9401]

Here we are, eleven posts in on a perfectly straightforward item and battle lines are already being drawn with 'what-ifs' being sprinkled about.
How soon before someone drops the M bomb?

[fiction-factory]

I know naomi didn't want a discussion but I wanted to say that I think that if this had happened here there would have been the same desire to raise funds (in fact the person organising this appeal is British according to naomi) given the bravery it seems was shown by this driver who seems to have lost his life trying to save lives of others based on all the evidence so far

[fiction-factory]

^ That was for Islay at 7:41.

That's me done on this thread

[naomi24]

fiction-factory, //the person organising this appeal is British according to naomi//

Just to clarify, David Duncan, the man who set this fund up says:

“RIP Lukasz… from the Truckers of the UK and beyond.”

[Islay]

I'm not so sure FF - that's me done as well for this thread!

[Berniecuddles2]

Not a lot of Christmas good will here lol

[TWR]

Done, Thank you Naomi. xx

[EDDIE51]

The donations have gone up by over £10,000 in less than an hour, I think it will exceed the target!