German Market Killing!

[Bravehearted]

Well done Italian police. A good result, but are you in Germany willing to let these Islamic sleepers, stay in your country?.

[237SJ]

The problem with sleepers is that nobody knows that they exist, let alone where they are living

[Peter Pedant]

// The problem with sleepers....//

I dont think he was a sleeper - I think he woke up one day and thought Oh ! know I will kill a few women and kids and hey I will go to heaven !

I dont feel sorry for David C - prize twit

I do for Angela Merkel - she had a vision for Germany and all it required for people who went to G to embrace their values, turn up to work, get paid and have a good time down the bierkeller

which honestly isnt much

a bit like I feel sorry for the islamic group that had alan henning in it
at the end of the charity convoy to Syria - they had one dead christian and later found two others had used it to send money to al qaeda
and I think the teenage organiseer was genuinely horrified at the results of his charitable impulses

[I hadnt realised the British Authorities had made it clear that that was the last charity convoy to Syria]

[fiction-factory]

Finding somewhere to send them can be difficult. Attempts had been made to deport Anis Amiri (the Berlin market lorry killer) to Tunisia but they refused to accept him.
There must be millions of immigrants/descendants of immigrants in Europe and whilst some may be under surveillance the vast majority can't/won't be on the radar- usually we only find out after it's too late.

[fiction-factory]

My reply of course only related to IS killers as I assume this thread is about those.

[naomi24]

I'm not sure why he's being called a 'sleeper'. He was known to both the German and the Italian authorities.

[ummmm]

I was thinking the same as Naomi.

[naomi24]

//Finding somewhere to send them can be difficult.//

Prison keeps them off the streets. Just an idea.

[fiction-factory]

I recall he had been to prison- unless you are suggesting a life sentence in prison for anyone who is in Europe illegally if no-one will take them back. That should keep the human rights lawyers busy.

[naomi24]

I’m not suggesting prison for anyone who is in Europe illegally – just those who pose a potential threat – whether they’re here legally or not.

[fiction-factory]

Mmmmm - I'm not sure what criteria would be used but if there was some profiling system that was proved to be sufficiently accurate although I can't see how we'd ever be sure we have locked someone up who would otherwise have been a mass killer.
I would agree though it does seem some who are supposed to be watched are not being watched closely enough

[naomi24]

Why give them the benefit of the doubt? Radical preachers are not usually mass killers, but they’re free to spout their bile nonetheless. If people are clearly enemies of the west either deport them or deprive them of their liberty. None of them should be free to move among us.

[keyplus90]

Most of these people are never a sleeper. They are all known to the authorities especially secret agencies, they are in regular touch with the people from those agencies and then ....................................... I will let you guess, but trust me, it's not a rocket science.

[naomi24]

Keyplus, yes, we know. They all work for the CIA ....

[mushroom25]

why should we make concessions to anyone who has arrived to our shores illegally? doesn't "illegal" mean having no right to be here?

if society is uncomfortable with that concept, then why doesn't it vote in a government whose manifesto includes abolishing borders?

[grumpy01]

" I do for Angela Merkel she had a vision for Germany" I certainly don't feel sorry for her. This open door entry policy was always going to cause problems like this and next year the far right will have a field day when it comes to the German elections because look what nearly happened in Austria.

[naomi24]

I don't feel sorry for her either. Like most people who endorse and encourage uncontrolled immigration, she's a fool.