Brexit: Supreme Court Sets Date For Judgement

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38667499

We shall know next Tuesday apparently !

[New Judge]

We already know what the decision will be and the PM has arrangements in hand to deal with it.

[Jackdaw33]

Who cares? We're out regardless.

[Gromit]

7-4 against the Government's appeal.

// Labour has already said it will not vote against the government over invoking Article 50. //
But Labour rebels are already lining up to defy their leader.

[mushroom25]

//We're out regardless. //

with a vote required in parliament (and each of the three regional assemblies, one of which currently has no sitting members) you can't add any certainty to that. already MPs are liming up to scupper the triggering of article 50.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/19/shadow-cabinet-mps-considering-voting-against-article-50-labour-brexit-theresa-may-jeremy-corbyn

[ToraToraTora]

dream on, brexit cannot be stopped.

[mikey4444]

TTT....it hasn't happened yet !

[Baldric]

Very observant of you Mikey, well spotted.

[ToraToraTora]

it will, no amount of fannying about by the SGB will stop it. The devolved assemblies are irrelevant. The commons know what is expected of them. Tell me mikey would you ignore the will of the people if you could or would you respect the referendum result?

[ToraToraTora]

well Jezza supports it anyway....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/38680915

[Zacs-Master]

I was very buoyed by TMs hard line on leaving the EU, especially the bit about slashing taxes to attract overseas trade.

But....is it still not the case that even if parliament votes 'yes', the fact that laws have to be re-written, not still a stumbling block?

[mikey4444]

TTT....I have already said that I respect the Referendum, many times here on AB...pay attention !

But if, as we suspect, the Supreme Court will stay with its original decision, then Mrs Maybe will need support of Parliament. And you are wrong to dismiss the devolved Governments......as Mrs Maybe has found, you can't re-write the law to suit yourself.

But having said all that, I expect that we will leave the EU at some time in the future. Exactly when is the key here.....it will still take at least another 2 years.

[ToraToraTora]

that's a great idea ZM, if we slash taxes for corporations the rest of the EU will cack itself.

[mushroom25]

//the fact that laws have to be re-written, not still a stumbling block? //

howsoever simple and/or concise the enacting bill for the triggering of article 50 is, you can expect a blizzard of amendments to be tabled. it could keep parliament busy for years.

[ToraToraTora]

UK parliament has ultimate control of all the devolved areas so they must be irrelevant if the UK parliament is deciding something. The We un may end up having another referendum but even that must be approved by westminster.

[mikey4444]

TTT..........you are showing that you really don't understand how this works at all !

[Zacs-Master]

Mushroom, that's what I suspected.

Tora - the tax slashing was reported in the Grauined.

[ToraToraTora]

ok i'll play along, what effect can the devolved assemblies have then?

[Zacs-Master]

It's by no means cut and dried, as to whether the devolved parliaments would or wouldn't have a say. It seems to boil down to the interpretation / avoidance of the word 'veto'. I apprciate my link is from last year, but I don't think the situation has changed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-37544592

[ToraToraTora]

"But, at the pinch, UK Ministers may then say: "So Holyrood declines to consent? These things. How sad. We had hoped to proceed by consensus but hey and, indeed, ho. Westminster is sovereign. Onwards and upwards." - so they have no effect, beyond whining about it, QED.

[gulliver1]

Brexit, if it ever ever happens will take at least ten years to take effect on the UK , it could be blocked , we might even have a second referendum , and the result will be REMAIN, Oh dear.