High Court Ruling.?

[anneasquith]

8-3 against TM. Fair ?

[youngmafbog]

In some ways perhaps. But it would have been much worse if the foreign lady and her bremoaning coherts had done it at a later stage. meaning we woud have to start all over again.

[Gromit]

// gromit, the people are supreme they have spoken //

The people elected an House of Commons that is very much pro remain.

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/BA5A/production/_90060774_mps_declare_eu_stance_22_06_16_624gr.png

The people are inconsistant.

[youngmafbog]

No they are not and you know very well the reasons why it is different.

[mushroom25]

//The people elected an House of Commons that is very much pro remain //

did they? none of the party manifestos (except maybe UKIP but they don't really count) had any campaign platform related to membership of the EU; the conservatives only pledged to hold a referendum by 2017. I don't know that you can say with certainty that the electorate was voting "remain", can you?

had any of the leading parties campaigned to leave or go, would their most credible opposition have taken a definite opposite stance? would the election result have been different?

[ToraToraTora]

face it gromit you and your sort just cannot stomach that the ordinary people have had enough of your beloved EU. If you respect democracy at all you should respect the vote. A simple binary choice, no trick questions, no fluffy wording, a simple in or out choice. The UK gave the answer, all sides should respect that.

[anotheoldgit]

Perhaps we should take to the streets?

But then that is not our style we wouldn't want to be called undemocratic and fascists, now would we?

[ToraToraTora]

sorr wrong post above!

[ToraToraTora]

no it's ok! Sorry having a senior moment

[vortex]

AOG //Perhaps we should take to the streets? //

No, you can only do that when you don't have a real reason to...

[jno]

this is a parliamentary democracy and has been for centuries; even an alien like me knows that. Parliament is sovereign. The people are not sovereign. Parliament gave them a referendum, which was never more than advisory, and the people have given their response. It doesn't make them sovereign. Parliament is still in power.

If anyone wants to overthrow parliament and spend their time with their fellow citizens debating fisheries bills, setting up select committees and submitting expenses claims to each other, go ahead. They might soon think it was an excellent idea to choose someone else to do it for them full time.

[New Judge]

"TTT...a lot of the people who would have voted remain are now 18 and registered to vote."

Quite true. But they've got to get out of their beds to do something about it (either going to the polling station or arranging a postal vote). Not very likely.

[bhg481]

Quite right NJ but it was reputed to be "old folk" who voted to remain and lots of those will have to get out of their coffins if there's another referendum.

[bhg481]

Sorry - Voted "leave"

[Gromit]

Last year Manchester's electorate voted in a referendum overwhelmingly NOT to have an elected Mayor.
In June this year, there is a contest for an elected Mayor.

The people spoke, and Parliament chose not to follow their advice.

My point being, that Parliament is sovereign, and referendums are not binding.

[ToraToraTora]

they may not be technically binding, but they in effect are, Woe betide the country if this is ignored.

[jno]

they in effect are

no, they in effect aren't. Did you not read Gromit's post?

[ToraToraTora]

typical lefty, incapable of comprehending beyond the technical rules.

[ludwig]

As I said the day after the result was announced, I will believe Brexit is happening when it actually happens.

In theory a bill will be passed easily through Parliament, but I suspect EU membership will be like a condemned man on death row with endless legal challenges being made to keep him there as long as possible.

[jackthehat]

///......incapable of comprehending beyond the technical rules.///

They are such inconvenient little bu$$ers, those 'technical rules', aren't they?

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