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You cannot deny the will of the people. Apparently.
AB is getting more like the KH Glee Club every day !
Ho-Hum....
I suppose it's too much to believe that Katie H. might get left behind on this Old Site?
quite right gromit, 1m people are against 59million are not. So welcome Donald!
our Katie should run for PM, she has been on the apprentice. It would be great.
Randy....but what Party would she represent ?
everyone Mikey, it will be great, really great.
// our Katie should run for PM //

We do not elect Prime Ministers.
that is all that is stopping her then.
come on people get a grip, we have a lady here who is prepared to speak out publicly & say what a lot of us think. Be thankful we are not all lilly livered.
Katie can say what she thinks and be a hero but the people signing the petition saying what they think are lilly livered?

Are they not both just saying what they think?
"great, really great"....you sounded a bit Trumpy there Randy !

I wouldn't think that KH has great popular appeal, if her recent Mea Culpa over he British Asian family is anything to go by.
Ron....KH does not speak for me, I can assure you !
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//Ron....KH does not speak for me, I can assure you !//
I think you would look cute in one of those pink woolly hats mikey
> The spokesman added cancelling the trip would be a "populist gesture"

He's a card, isn't he ...
She speaks for me.
Mikey might need a little pink woolly hat for his wee Willy.

I signed the petition because I think that DT is the lowest form of life on the planet. I don't suppose that I realistically expected anything to actually happen as a result of it.
Really what you'd expect from Ms. Hopkins - bit of a rant - about as useful as the petition she is ranting about.

But to address the issue that has everyone so vexed, I am a little confused.

If President Trump really believes that barring Muslims from certain countries is going to have the remotest effect on reducing the terrorist threat to the U.S., then he is far to naïve and simplistic to be doing that particular job.

But let's run with his point for a moment -

President Trump believes that banning Muslins from a listed set of countries will enable his administration to 'sort out what's going on ...' as he used to say in his campaign speeches.

I suggest that his rationale is flawed.

If you want to say that Muslims are terrorists, therefore by banning Muslims you ban terrorists, that is a facile argument that belongs in the 'dog born in a stable is a horse' folder.

But if you are banning Muslims because they are terrorists, then surely you have to ban all of them - because all Muslims are terrorists.

The moment you become selective - banning Muslims from countries which have form as producers or terrorists, but not banning Muslims from countries where you have personal profitable business links, then your strategy instantly starts to suck a big one, and people will reasonably wonder if you have actually thought through your policy before you put pen to paper.

So even though President Trump's notion of banning terrorists by banning Muslims, was about as useful as a chocolate tea pot, he instantly shot it down by allowing British Muslims with dual nationality to enter the U.S. as before.

Does President Trump assume that no Muslims from the UK with dual nationality could possibly be terrorists?

Just wondering ....
Not that I wish to speak for him, as I don't agree with what he's doing at all, but I believe his argument isn't that all Muslims are terrorists, it's that those Muslims who are terrorists are more likely to come from the countries he's banned. Therefore banning those countries doesn't keep Muslims out of the USA, it keeps Muslim terrorists out. A facile argument, if you ask me, bit there you go.

One thing he knows that we don't is the number of plots that have been foiled that involve Muslim terrorists from those countries. Perhaps if we did know that we'd understand his reasoning a bit better, even if we still didn't agree with it.

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