Members Of Yet Another Rotherham Sex Gang Jailed For A Total Of 80 Years.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4184966/Child-sex-gang-members-shout-Allahu-Akbar-court.html

It was reported that they shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as they were sent down, should they have been returned and had their sentences increased?

[vetuste_ennemi]

YouTube videos? Wonder if this works.

Final proof (if needed) by Khandro that all my taste in all the arts is totally vitiated.

[vetuste_ennemi]

I meant THIS:

[vetuste_ennemi]

I pasted in the full URL, Khandro:

[vetuste_ennemi]

I wonder if the https is affecting you, Khandro. Where's a geek?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Apologies to AOG for the digression. I tried to copy the URL as text rather than a link.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //andy-hughes, you haven’t answered it. Just more hot air. //

That does rather prove my point.

If I have posted a response to your question, then I have answsered it.

When you deny that simple fact, it underlines the fact that you did not receive an answer that you think measures up to what you think an answer should.

Frankly that is your problem, not mine.

If you don't like the answers to my questions, there is a very simple solution.

[fiction-factory]

I wouldn't bother, andy- naomi's debating tactics/misdirections are tiresome. I gave up bothering a while ago

[andy-hughes]

And just because my answer does not meet your preconceived notions of what it should say, that does not excuse you being rude about it. Please refrain from your offensive observations.

[andy-hughes]

Thanks fiction-factory - my response was obviously to Naomi, and not your good self!!

[Khandro]

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v_e Thanks, I'm trying pasting it 18 lines down which takes me below my outrageously large avatar. In case it works and in case anyone has forgotton it relates to Mohammad's sex life giving Muslims the OK to do more or less what they want;

[Khandro]

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Let's forget it, can anyone reccomend another website?

[Khandro]

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In case the Muslims have blocked that link I'm trying something else, an answer to v_e's?

[naomi24]

andy hughes, //I have no faith, and I waste no time agonising over the machinations of people who do….I can think of hundreds of ways better to use my time than giving brain room to the nonsense that is religion//
 

Hence you don’t understand the people who do – or why they do it – and yet you insist on pontificating – and as always when you’re asked a simple, pertinent, question that you are unable to answer, you resort in your time-honoured fashion to the accusations of rudeness that you carry with you from thread to thread. Like Fiction-Factory, this is a subject upon which (by your own admission) you are unqualified to debate so perhaps you should consider taking a leaf out of his book. As you say, there is a very simple solution.

[Peter Pedant]

// this is a subject upon which you are unqualified to debate so perhaps you should take a leaf out of his book. As you say, there is a very simple solution.//

Like butting out ? Nigh does this alot I notice

Look boys and girls and squabblers - the question was whether shouting Allah Akbar should earn an increased sentence - if shouted in court

I mean of course not for chrissakes - the sentence relates to the offence and not behaviour in court

[naomi24]

Peter-Pedant, put your glasses on.

[vetuste_ennemi]

I think the trivial question being asked in the OP is understood. The last dozen or so posts have asked the more interesting question of what explains that the correlation between certain sexual crimes and Muslim populations.

The premise may be legitimately if not plausibly denied; by all means contest it. And the correlation may have something or nothing to do with Islam and country of origin; by all mean argue that case. Unfortunately

Unfortunately trolls trump reason.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Ah, good fortune! Not only is Mr Pedant a constitional lawyer, he's also an expert in Islamic fiqh.

Maybe Sheikh Peter (or whatever his Arab name is) can issue a fatwa on the issue of when rape of a non-Muslim is, but more importantly NOT forbidden.

[vetuste_ennemi]

You may need to explain fiqh to those who have sufficient curiosity about the external world left after their narcissistic introspections, Sheikh.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // Hence you don’t understand the people who do – or why they do it – and yet you insist on pontificating – and as always when you’re asked a simple, pertinent, question that you are unable to answer, you resort in your time-honoured fashion to the accusations of rudeness that you carry with you from thread to thread. Like Fiction-Factory, this is a subject upon which (by your own admission) you are unqualified to debate so perhaps you should consider taking a leaf out of his book. As you say, there is a very simple solution. //

There is a simple solution – but it’s never going to be the one you want.

Your ‘simple solution’ is that people like me, whom you judge uneducated or intelligent enough to post on a thread, stay away and let you and others tell us all what you think you know, and we don’t.

We have had this discussion before, and for someone with your advertised intelligence, you have a short memory.

I have advised you previously that direct experience of anything does not prevent me from possessing and expressing an opinion on it. That is how information is exchanged. If everyone waited until a thread discussed something of which they have direct knowledge, the site would vanish up its own fundament in a matter of days as people tried to outdo each other with the superiority of their knowledge.

Fortunately, people who behave like that – as you do, are limited to yourself and a few others who like to parade your ‘knowledge’ like it some sort of unique gift – which clearly it is not.

So, to remind you again, I will post my opinion on every single post on every single thread I see fit, and I shall ignore your condescension about you imagine I do or do not know.

And if you continue to be rude about what I post, I will report you each time you do it.

Hopefully that clears up any misunderstanding about the value I place on your opinion and desire to lecture, and my intention in reaction to your personal rudeness when you don’t like the answers you are given.

I hope that solution is simple enough for you – please don’t bother to comment either way, I’m not likely to muster the interest to respond.