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The Village Aiming To Create A White Utopia
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Bigots looking for somewhere to live need look no further than this village in Hungary !
Bigots looking for somewhere to live need look no further than this village in Hungary !
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AOG - //Does it make one a bigot if one does not choose to live next door to a travellers site, or to have one at the bottom of one's garden? Or does it only work if Muslims are concerned? // Choosing to live, or not to live, anywhere does not make someone a bigot. A bigot is intolerant towards an entire grouping of people. You can have reservations about the behaviour...
13:15 Wed 08th Feb 2017
Mikey - //mikey; I don't expect you will read my link, as you really don't want to learn anything, but at least you could read your own. //
I wish you'd realise that not only your palpable ignorance vexes Khandro and others, but it is your willingness to wallow in your ignorance, which is in incising frown lines into Khandro's forehead that no amount of Botox will eradicate.
You see, there are educated people like Khandro, and there are thick ignorant plebs like you and me, and we are spoiling the site for them because we insist on spouting off about things which we know nothing about, and getting in the way of them educating everyone to their level - well, approaching it anyway, we can't expect perfection in five minutes.
So perhaps you will join me in getting busy getting educated, and not wasting Khandro's (and others) time by messing up the area with uniformed uneducated opinions, because, well, frankly, it's just irritating.
Thanks for taking the time.
I wish you'd realise that not only your palpable ignorance vexes Khandro and others, but it is your willingness to wallow in your ignorance, which is in incising frown lines into Khandro's forehead that no amount of Botox will eradicate.
You see, there are educated people like Khandro, and there are thick ignorant plebs like you and me, and we are spoiling the site for them because we insist on spouting off about things which we know nothing about, and getting in the way of them educating everyone to their level - well, approaching it anyway, we can't expect perfection in five minutes.
So perhaps you will join me in getting busy getting educated, and not wasting Khandro's (and others) time by messing up the area with uniformed uneducated opinions, because, well, frankly, it's just irritating.
Thanks for taking the time.
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mikey; //OK for a man and a woman to hold hands in public, but not two chaps//
Nothing at all wrong in men holding hands or walking arm in arm with their friends, it happens all the time in 'foreign parts', I have experienced it myself in India, and according to Charles Dickens it was commonplace in England circa 1840's, (don't know when it stopped).
They are talking about distasteful, overtly passionate public displays by homosexual males, - which I personally don't find particularly pleasant to observe in even hetero couples either.
mikey; //OK for a man and a woman to hold hands in public, but not two chaps//
Nothing at all wrong in men holding hands or walking arm in arm with their friends, it happens all the time in 'foreign parts', I have experienced it myself in India, and according to Charles Dickens it was commonplace in England circa 1840's, (don't know when it stopped).
They are talking about distasteful, overtly passionate public displays by homosexual males, - which I personally don't find particularly pleasant to observe in even hetero couples either.
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I suspect that in any European town or village that has suddenly seen an influx of migrants would cause much consternation with the natives.
The decisions, of course, are taken by respective governments who do not seem to realise the repercussions of their actions of which the decision-makers will not be affected themselves.
You simply cannot expect integration to occur on large scales at the drop of a hat nor expect the natives to see their long preserved cultures placed at threat.
It is not racist to say that, it is common sense. People should not be afraid to convey their concerns for fear of being labelled a bigot.
The situation across Europe is going to deteriorate so there is a need for intelligent discussions at all levels to address the key issues.
We will get nowhere fast by accusing the locals who, in many cases like in the link, feel afraid to step out into the world which they were accustomed.
They should be listened to and not taken to task for their feeling of insecurity.
They may not always be right but neither are the powers that be that create these divisive conditions without a serious policy or efficient planning.
The decisions, of course, are taken by respective governments who do not seem to realise the repercussions of their actions of which the decision-makers will not be affected themselves.
You simply cannot expect integration to occur on large scales at the drop of a hat nor expect the natives to see their long preserved cultures placed at threat.
It is not racist to say that, it is common sense. People should not be afraid to convey their concerns for fear of being labelled a bigot.
The situation across Europe is going to deteriorate so there is a need for intelligent discussions at all levels to address the key issues.
We will get nowhere fast by accusing the locals who, in many cases like in the link, feel afraid to step out into the world which they were accustomed.
They should be listened to and not taken to task for their feeling of insecurity.
They may not always be right but neither are the powers that be that create these divisive conditions without a serious policy or efficient planning.
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ladybirder - //One of the joys of this site, for me, is to learn new things from people who know more about a subject than I know myself. //
I could not agree more - but I appreciate my education being delivered without the need of the educator to try and belittle me because he or she knows more than I do.
// Sneering is such a horrible trait. //
Please see my comment above.
I could not agree more - but I appreciate my education being delivered without the need of the educator to try and belittle me because he or she knows more than I do.
// Sneering is such a horrible trait. //
Please see my comment above.
vortex- In terms of the concerns of people in a village who perceive (rightly or wrongly) than an influx of other people may cause them social issues - you make an absolutely valid point.
But concern is not the same as an attitude that says that a village will discourage people based on their ethnicity or orientation - that is not concern, that it bigotry.
The danger is allowing the legitimate concerns of one attitude to be used as an umbrella to facilitate the other attitude.
But concern is not the same as an attitude that says that a village will discourage people based on their ethnicity or orientation - that is not concern, that it bigotry.
The danger is allowing the legitimate concerns of one attitude to be used as an umbrella to facilitate the other attitude.
Andy I don't see anyone trying to belittle you, I really don't. I do not mean to be rude when I say you do seem to have a thin skin at times. Are you trying to belittle readers when you write how much you know about music? I don't think so.
Back to the subject, I see there are two muslim families living in the village who have integrated very well and are welcome to stay. Perhaps if they all did that there wouldn't be people feeling the need to create a (nearly) all white village.
Back to the subject, I see there are two muslim families living in the village who have integrated very well and are welcome to stay. Perhaps if they all did that there wouldn't be people feeling the need to create a (nearly) all white village.
andy-hughes, //I appreciate my education being delivered without the need of the educator to try and belittle me because he or she knows more than I do.//
Before your first post on this thread at 10:34 this morning you hadn’t been mentioned you so why do you feel someone was trying to belittle you? That makes no sense.
Before your first post on this thread at 10:34 this morning you hadn’t been mentioned you so why do you feel someone was trying to belittle you? That makes no sense.
ladybirder - //Andy I don't see anyone trying to belittle you, I really don't. //
I am not going to derail the thread by continuing this - I have made my point to Khandro, he can answer or ignore it as he chooses. Ifd you don't see people trying to belittle me, then I suggest you are not a regular reader on this site.
// I do not mean to be rude when I say you do seem to have a thin skin at times. //
I see it as simply defending myself when attacked, or patronised, that does not equate with a thin skin as far as I am concerned.
// Are you trying to belittle readers when you write how much you know about music? I don't think so. //
Never - but then I never tell people to 'educate themselves' - that is pompous and uncalled for.
let's draw a line and move on with the debate.
I am not going to derail the thread by continuing this - I have made my point to Khandro, he can answer or ignore it as he chooses. Ifd you don't see people trying to belittle me, then I suggest you are not a regular reader on this site.
// I do not mean to be rude when I say you do seem to have a thin skin at times. //
I see it as simply defending myself when attacked, or patronised, that does not equate with a thin skin as far as I am concerned.
// Are you trying to belittle readers when you write how much you know about music? I don't think so. //
Never - but then I never tell people to 'educate themselves' - that is pompous and uncalled for.
let's draw a line and move on with the debate.
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