So What Happenned To Death By A Thousand Amendments Then?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38915553
The bill passes the commons un amended and the Lords will rubber stamp what has already been a rubber stamp. So what was the point of all that? So parliament can feel important? Right oh! lets get A50 triggered then.

[jno]

It was only ever Brexiters who were terrified of death by amendments; have a look back through your own posts if you don't believe me.

[ToraToraTora]

well I did fear it getting watered down by the SGB granted jno but it was the remainiacs who continually threatened amendments and 10 years of tripe, A50 never getting invoked, yada yada yada etc. As it turns out Parliament have simply rubber stamped the original decision of the people.

[lindapalmara]

Watched it. The whole division thing. Not one went through! Serious shouting match between Deputy Speaker and Salmond, Scots Nats singing the European Anthem (Ode to Joy.... Didn't know that before) and being told off. It was a shambles!

[EDDIE51]

The debate can only start once A 50 has been triggered. Failing to trigger it was never a viable option.
There is already serious suggestion that we will have to have a 'transitional period' after the end of the 2 year A 50 leave date. This would be to rewrite our own laws to replace the EU law that presently covers everything from food coloring to operational requirements for Nuclear power stations !
As I have said unless we get a 'deal' from the EU we will not be able to use the existing EU rules as using them needs their permission, no 'deal' and we do not have that permission!
We can't just 'say st**f ' you we are going to use them anyway as they will no longer be legally enforceable.

[ToraToraTora]

you keep saying that eddie but it is not EU law, it is EU originating law that are British law having been absorbed into our statute. Thus we use that until we change it as necessary. So for now you can have all the bent bananas and straight cucumber law if it makes you feel better until it is repealed at our leasure, geddit?

[ichkeria]

If you are wondering where your demons are look no further than the future detail :-)

[Gromit]

Just like justice has to be seen to be done and we have trials that are a foregone conclusion, the same thing applies to our governance.

Parliament is supreme and Parliament has to make changes such as brexit in order for it to be legal.

We have had this system for only 950 years, so I can understand why you have not yet cottoned on to how our country works.

[jim360]

Be fair -- since this really dates from the Bill of Rights it's closer to about 330 years.

[Marshwarble]

Well the Bill of Rights meant that we were no longer dictated to by a monarch, so is worth fighting for.

[Gromit]

from the very beginning, Corbyn said his party would support invoke, so there was never any real prospect of Parliament rejecting invoking.

The delays caused by trying to deny Parliament and Appealing the Supreme Court were entirely Mrs Mays doing. It was probably done to buy some time, as the brexiteers had no propoer plan in place if, as they did, the British public voted to leave.

[youngmafbog]

It is, but this time we are fighting for our right not to be dictated to by the EUSSR

[mikey4444]

As Gromit has said, all that faffing about with the Supreme Court was entirely the fault of Mrs May. All that the original case was about was ensuring that any decision as made by Parliament, not in some back office at Number Ten.

And that process has now been achieved.

Democracy won in the end.

[ToraToraTora]

it was decided by the people on June 23rd mikey

[mikey4444]

TTT....by your comments, its obvious that you still don't understand what the law says and does !

Bit like Hillsborough I suppose ?

[ToraToraTora]

what's hillsborough got to do with anything?

[Old_Geezer]

For most folk the decision had already been made by parliament when they OKed the referendum. It may not have been legally binding but was understood to be enacted anyway; until someone found a way to try to scupper it; and insisted on the decision already made must be confirmed. But it failed to stop anything. Hardly surprising then that the majority of voters expected anything else that could be thrown at it, would be. In the event it was a pleasant surprise to find most (but not all) of the MPs believed in democracy after all.

[ToraToraTora]

bang on OG can't seem to get that through the heads of the SGB though. Parliament already decided to have the referendum and declared they would implement the result so why did they end up having to verify their original decision?

[fiction-factory]

Because they were deemed to be required in law to do so. Everyone's a winner really.

[fiction-factory]

The sour grapes seemed to me to come from those who didn't want us to abide by the ruling of the judges and wanted to press on regardless even though it would have set a dangerous precedent