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E U “It Is Difficult To See Any Alternative To The Continued Application Of The Common Fisheries Policy”.

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Samjenko | 07:09 Thu 16th Feb 2017 | News
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"Outside the EU, an EEZ extends 200 nautical miles (370km) off a country's coastline, giving the state the authority to exploit and control the fish resources within this zone." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36358016 I knew I had 200 miles in my head for some reason. Quite possibly enforceable if the gov pulls their finger out...
10:32 Fri 17th Feb 2017
Ah, so now you're accepting there may be a problem if the UE don't play ball. Good. That's a start. How to you think the EU will feel in the event of a hard Brexit?
Perhaps we should use Iceland's fishing policy template. Whilst being a part of the European Economic Area (EEA), which allows it to participate in the European single market, it retains sole (pun intended) rites to fish what it claims to be Icelandic water. Iceland's exclusive fisheries zone has an area of 760,000 square kilometers, seven times the area of Iceland itself. Sounds good to me for cod's hake.
The EU will only try to play hard ball if they feel that there are enough useful fools left in the UK to give them a chance of gaining an advantage.
There's a problem alright ... it is called the EU.

They are trying to blackmail the UK.
It is the UK Government that permits foreign factory ships to operate in British waters.

We are allocated a quota, designed to preserve fish stocks. The Department of Ag then license boats to catch that quota.

Take the case of the Cornelis Vrolijk. It operates out of Hull under a British flag. The British Government (not the EU) have allocated it 23% of the total British quota, while small boats get a fraction or none of the quota. It is a Dutch owned vessel, and lands its catch in Holland.

It is the UK Government who are putting small boat owners out of business, not the EU.

UK fishermen may not win waters back after Brexit, EU memo reveals




As often pointed out 'may' not win back waters.
Usual Guardian stuff ... frighten em to death with conjecture!


Have you been back to the Canada migrant thread recently EDDDIE?
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Being a bit disingenuous there, Gromit. The UK Government weren't allowed to licence anything their EU masters didn't dictate.
Talbot.....the EU are not trying to blackmail us. Any harm to any part of industry post Brexit, will be due to the majority leave vote. Likewise any benefit. But it doesn't look like the fishing industry will be one of the latter.

Togo.....last I heard, the legal position on whether we leave the EEA as an automatic process of leaving the EU wasn't decided. Yet another complication.
I didn't mention leaving the EEA. I pointed out that Iceland was in it and had a very favourable fishing deal with little bargaining leverage compared to the UK. Then again, the people of Iceland were united in their "negotiations" with the EU, and didn't have to contend with a fifth column movement trying to sabotage every strategy suggested to wring the best for Britain from the pyramid scheme.
If we get out of it we will have ONLY the 12 mile limit around the UK coast as our fishing grounds.


link PLEASE!
Samjenko

No really. The Ministry of Ag licenses who can fish our quota, not the EU.

https://www.daera-ni.gov.uk/articles/quota-management-effort-control-and-vessel-licensing-policy
Togo....I know you didn't mention leaving. My post was designed to show that leaving may well be an inevitability of leaving the EU.

Were you aware that it is only EU subsidies which keeps all EU fisheries profitable?
http://cfp-reformwatch.eu/2011/09/without-subsidies-4-6-loss-for-eu-fishing-fleet/
what a load of tibetan muesli, SGB chomping 541t, we'll have our waters and any foreign raiders will be repelled. End of. The SGB are getting so desperate. You lost start living with it of ^%&* off to the E kin U you love so much.
Talbot I gave the link in my previous answer at 12.46 with a request that you read it.
I think Tora and his tired old cliches are about to reach critical mass.
-Talbot-

Apologies, I am guilty of misleading about our fishing areas.
Our territorial waters are 12 miles, and no one else is allowed inside that.
But we also have an Exclusive Economic Zone which can extend 200 miles from our coast. Because we have neighbouring countries our EEZ is much smaller than that, but it is more substantial than I led ABers to believe.

Our EEZ is red on this map.

https://www.danieldaltonmep.co.uk/sites/www.danieldaltonmep.co.uk/files/inline-images/fish%20map.png
//In 2009 the entire EU fleet was making a 4.6% loss when direct income subsidies were not taken into account. With the subsidies the fleet was still operating at a 1.5% loss. For the trawler fleet segments the loss was even larger.
These figures were presented at a seminar in the European Commission last week, and add to the dismal numbers presented by the Commission in June in a report on the economy of the European fishing fleet.//
Yep sounds like EU economics at work. Of course before the British fishermen were forced to join the pyramid scheme the UK fishing industry was a thriving and profitable industry employing 1000s at sea and even more in the land based support industries. But lo and behold join the EU and "subsidies" (bribes) are necessary to make it viable, with the ever present threat that you do as they bid or the handouts will cease. Meeh.
I wonder if the HoL EU committee will follow thru on their promis to consult fishing communities? I wonder whether that consultation will be worth diddly-squat come the time for exit negotiations?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-effect-on-fishing-industry_uk_585511cfe4b09b495cae1605
-Talbot-

Apologies, I am guilty of misleading about our fishing areas.
Our territorial waters are 12 miles, and no one else is allowed inside that.
But we also have an Exclusive Economic Zone which can extend 200 miles from our coast. Because we have neighbouring countries our EEZ is much smaller than that, but it is more substantial than I led ABers to believe.

Our EEZ is red on this map.



Ba Dooosh!




EDDIE51
Talbot I gave the link in my previous answer at 12.46 with a request that you read it.


I read that a long, long time ago EDDIE.
Read Gromit's last post.

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