Religion No Excuse For Gay Discrimination

[Zacs-Master]

In a similar case to Cakegate, a court in the US has ruled that discrimination against gays on religious grounds isn't lawful:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/us/florist-discrimination-gay-couple-washington-court.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

[sp1814]

Samjenko

Apologies for the 'roll my eyes' comment. It didn't add anything to what I was trying to express there.

[Mamyalynne]

Sorry but that raised a smile SP - the thought of someone choosing my doormat to defect.

[douglas9401]

"If you got home after work on Monday, and you found someone had defected on your door mat "

As the old song almost said, 'What A Difference An 'A' Makes'. :)

[sp1814]

divebuddy

That's an extreme example, but it's still correct.

Furthermore - I would add that a man's toothache is worse than a woman's labour. It's been proven.

There...I've said it.

Enjoy your Saturday night everyone!

[naomi24]

SP, // I think it boils down to who the public feels is discriminated against more.//

The public haven’t made the decision. The court made the decision that the rights of the gay couple supersede those of a supposedly equally ‘protected class’.

Mamyalynne, //The fact that this lady suddenly turned from seeing them as good customers to refusal based on her dislike (can't think of a better word) of Gay marriage is most unprofessional.//

This isn’t ‘dislike'. Unprofessional (in your opinion) or not, it’s a tenet of her religion. As a ‘believer’ she CAN’T support gay marriage.

andy-hughes, //she had to use the arrogance that such views give her to make sure that they were made aware of her reason not to serve them - which is against the law.//

It isn’t arrogance. See my reply to Mamyalynne. Bizarre that the law requires people to engage in deceit though.

[Mamyalynne]

Well as I've said before I'm a poor excuse for a Christian, I tolerate people who may have differing but non damaging ways to mine.

Still I always have the confessional.


None of my businesses were ever taken to court for discrimination gladly.

[naomi24]

Mamyalynne, //I tolerate people who may have differing but non damaging ways to mine.//

Highly commendable I’m sure, but I’ve no doubt that applies to most people. However, this lady was asked to become personally involved in something that her religion teaches is wrong, and that she fervently believes is wrong, so your principles can’t really be compared to hers.

[Mamyalynne]

No they can't.

[Islay]

She runs a business if she want that business to succeed you cannot allow personal feelings come into it and that goes for every religion!

[naomi24]

Islay, there's no indication that her business is unsuccessful. Quite the reverse. These people were regular customers.

[Islay]

I did not say it was Naomi I said if she wants it to succeed! Why are you so quick to respond with out reading what has been written? I know that if a florists in my area refused to service a gay wedding I would not shop there again! Business is business personal feelings have no place!

[naomi24]

Islay, I read your post. Her business is her business and I doubt she needs your advice. Funny how the tolerant can be so very intolerant when it suits them. Just an observation.

[Islay]

mmmm and can I just say I never realised how intolerant some are on here. Actually it goes beyond intolerance!

[douglas9401]

It occurs to me that, in these enlightened days of equality before the law that 'gay marriage' is redundant, it's merely 'marriage'.

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - //She made a stand on a point of (to her) principle. She can hold her head up, regardless of what the law says. //

It may well be that defending her principles, even to the extent of breaking the law, and dealing with the consequences, is more important in the wider scheme of things.

Obviously we don't know. But I am happy on a daily basis not to have a faith like hers, which puts me in the way of things I can't explain every minute of every day.

[naomi24]

Islay, //mmmm and can I just say I never realised how intolerant some are on here. Actually it goes beyond intolerance!//

As far as I’m concerned you can say pretty much what you like. That’s called tolerance. ;o)

[naomi24]

divebuddy at 22:23. With you there. I've no idea what andy-hughes is talking about.