Should Our Mps Have Wasted Three Hours In Westminster Hall Debating The State Visit To The Uk By President Trump, When More Important Issues Need Debating?

[anotheoldgit]

As usual Katie Hopkins, voices her opinion and I am sure she is not alone in her opinion both against this pathetic debate and the hordes of lefties and other minority groups who chose to take to the streets once again so as to publicise their own particular agendas.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4243272/KATIE-HOPKINS-Trump-debate-waste-time.html

[anneasquith]

The link from M was but a small section of the speech I referred to.

[EDDIE51]

As said, they had no choice but to debate it. The petition got over 1.85 Million signatures!! It only needed 50,000 to force a debate.
Incidentally the petition specifically stated that Trump SHOULD be allowed to visit the UK as Head of State of the USA! It just said that this should not be a Full State Visit !
No other US president has been invited for a State Visit until at least 2 years into their first term, why was Trump invited just a few days into his presidency ?? That made it look as if Trump was superior to all the other US presidents .

[mushroom25]

//If a predefined number of people sign petitions.gov.uk, the the issue has to be debated. //

umm, not exactly. the website says that:-
If a petition gets 10,000 signatures, the government will respond.

the vote of no confidence petition in the brexit vote reached the threshold, and the government responded
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178761?reveal_response=yes#response-threshold
but there was no debate.

[ichkeria]

It is always good to have a debate, but yes it does seem largely pointless, given the government had said "No" already. Thus rendering any sort of vote null and void in advance. I know I signed the damn thing, but I'm not a huge fan of these petitions.

[ichkeria]

As I understand it there were two petitions one for and one against (the former seeming particularly daft, given it was a petition for something that was effectively already happening)
So both were debated. I assume Hopkins realises this ...

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

Since it was not a typical House of Commons vote, with a 'aye' or 'no'. to a question "Should Donald Trump be allowed a State Visit, I can't see the purpose of such a debate.

/// Members of Parliament work (or perhaps SHOULD) for us. If a protocol exists to make them do something on our behalf, so be
it. ///

Yes but they wasn't working for 'us all' they were working for only a very small minority of us, 1.9millon who signed the petition to be precise.

[EDDIE51]

The undue haste to offer Trump a full state visit also made it look as if our prime minister had her nose so far up Trump's a*** that she could not see past it!

[kvalidir]

Exactly, protocol normally demands that we leave it a good while before we invite any head of state ( presumably to see what they turn out like), but because of her Brexit desperation Theresa the Appeaser snogged the face off Donald at the first opportunity, lest Europe be nasty to us and we end up with no-one to play with, and invited him before even she realised what a dilwyn he is.

[anotheoldgit]

anneasquith

/// The link from M was but a small section of the speech I referred
to. ///

Then why not save your fellow Abers from further trouble by providing the full words of the speech that you yourself are praising?

[sp1814]

1.9million????

Holy cow. That's a massive number. It was only at 900,000 when I first read about this.

That's surely one of the largest ever petitions handed in?

[ToraToraTora]

nope, why debate? the president is coming end of. A load of sour puss lefties still spitting out their organic peace porridge ain't gonna change owt is it?