emmie - //so some think it a good idea, whilst others think that they should string them up by their proverbial's, not one i advocate by the way. // As always, these are the two schools of thought that emerge when this subject is debated. Personally, even when taking in the severity of the crimes that can result from mental illness - and this is just one of them - I am...
The process of chemical castration has been used in various forms, or Surgical Castration, either forcibly as a sentence or as a way for offenders to reduce their jail time in several countries including Argentina, Australia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, India, Israel, Moldova, New Zealand, Poland, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, and Russia.
It seems a worthwhile attempt to treat and control an obviously emotive issue - whilst the inevitable 'two bricks' and 'cheesewire' comments are always trotted out, they do not control the urges in such people and that is what is needed.
As a parent myself, the hideousness of these crimes is beyond words.
Whilst chemical castration seems an ideal solution, I think we have to remember that the various Human Rights laws have put paid to us using this as a solution, at least in Europe. It seems to be that the rights of the individual now supercede any penalties for crimes committed by that person even when guilt has been proved and I think that Brexit is not going to have any impact on the matter.
The other issue for me is that I'm pretty sure that no one in authority will advocate the use of chemical castration publicly because of what has happened in the Turin case. Overwhelming opinion in 2013 forced the UK government to apologise for the disgusting treatment of Alan Turin and quite rightly so. I find it ironic that this genius who shortened the duration of WWII was forced to undergo chemical castration for a "crime" that is both commonplace and overlooked nowadays.
No politician is going to put his/her head on the line over this.
the cost involved 800 a week to have someone in prison, i am only quoting this mornings debate, and 100 quid a week for those who opt for chemical castration. That is a no brainer.
I do not know how chemical castration works. If it removes the bodily functions required to have sex, of whatever kind, whilst leaving the mental urge then surely this could in itself be dangerous. One hears of many killers being impotent rapists.
Alan Turing was a homosexual, at a time when it was against the law, he has since been exonerated, not that that helps, considering he committed suicide, but it might his family.
No , the chemical method suppresses urges whilst genitalia is intact - surgical or the AB two brick approach, removes certain physical aspects but leaves the urges unless chemicals are used post op.
jadyn - //I find it ironic that this genius who shortened the duration of WWII was forced to undergo chemical castration for a "crime" that is both commonplace and overlooked nowadays. //
The official pardoning of Mr Turing was debated at length here on the AB at the time, with some on either side.
I do think we have to remember that history is exactly that - society was a different place and behaved differently on many levels, and we must beware of trying to place our modern attitudes and morality on a bygone age.
How does it work? A person rapes a child so would that person be punished for the crime as well as undergoing CC? Or just agree to undergo CC and no punishment?
Surely the main point of any intervention for law breakers is to prevent reoffending or to stop them offending in the first place. I can be as vengeful as the next person and maybe then some, but if its not going to stop the offending (and let us remember the unpleasant fact that many paedophiles do not use their own genitalia on their victims) then the rusty can lid/hot pincers school of thought, while satisfying, simply will not help. I think with such a serious issue, it makes good sense to set aside personal feelings and instead focus on prevention.
andy-hughes, this is absulutely nothing to do with imposing modern attitudes upon a bygone age. You've missed the point. As the years pass, Society regrets its actions and no one nowadays wants to make a decision that may be criticised in years to come. This is why no politician will advocate castration. People in power nowadays err on the side of caution rather than risk being ridiculed in their later years.
I seem to have missed the debate on Alan Turin. No doubt it was quite emotive.
It's all way out of my expertise but a mental illness to me is something that develops in life through chemical imbalance and/or external factors on those who are susceptible. Like any illness medical intervention can treat, ease or even cure. Mental derangement, for want of a better term, is a genetic or neurological misalignment you are born with, people aren't born mentally ill. That is my view. The suggestion is therefore that paedophiles are nurtured not natured then?
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