Police Name London Attacker

[MargoTester]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39372154

[emmie]

i think someone posted his name earlier, sure i read it here.

[Gromit]

He was born in Kent 52 years ago. So much for blaming recent immigration.

That would be the mid 1960s when Enoch Powell as Health Minister was busily encouraging immigrants to come here and staff our hospitals.

[Jackdaw33]

Ah, so it's all Enoch's fault, is it?

[emmie]

pointless blaming Enoch Powell. Blame the individual.
he had endless convictions according to the piece and was well known to the police.

[hc4361]

The murderer was a Muslim convert - I have no idea where his parents came from.

[naomi24]

Gromit, //So much for blaming recent immigration. //

Immigration is irrelevant. Islam doesn't recognise boundaries.

[hc4361]

Exactly, emmie - the fault lies entirely with him.
I rather wish that he hadn't been given the dignity of an identity, just be an anonymous person that can't be martyred by lunatics.

[Garaman]

//Immigration is irrelevant. Islam doesn't recognise boundaries.//

I don't follow what you mean by that, Naomi, I wouldn't expect any religion to have boundaries.

[emmie]

on the news just now, said that 40 were injured, that is a lot more than first put forward.

[naomi24]

Garaman, Islam isn’t simply a religion. Aligning it with other religions is a mistake.

[Garaman]

I am not making any mistake, Naomi, I am merely pointing out that you wouldn't expect it to have boundaries.

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39373766

As Gromit has already said, this man was born in Kent in 1964, long before the time of "mass immigration" allowed by the Labour Party.

[mikey4444]

"In her statement to MPs, the Prime Minister said that the attacker was British born and that "some years ago" he was "once investigated in relation to concerns about violent extremism".
She went on: "He was a peripheral figure. The case is historic - he was not part of the current intelligence picture. There was no prior intelligence of his intent - or of the plot."

[naomi24]

Garaman, I’m talking about geographical boundaries. I wrote something like this yesterday. The madmen of Islam do not ‘do’ countries, or boundaries, or patriotism. They are not British or French or German or Syrian, or Pakistanis, or Moroccan. Wherever they live in the world and wherever they were born, first and foremost they are Islamists.

[Garaman]

I am talking about geographical boundaries as well, Naomi. I wouldn't expect a religion to be restricted to one or more countries. I am not sure why you have switched to the 'madmen of Islam', I was just referring to the religion (though I accept you see it as more than that).

[fiction-factory]

Aren't you stating the obvious though naomi? I am not sure why you keep making this point.

[andy-hughes]

The fact this man is British born, and not linked to any terrorist organisation, and the reasons for his actions are, at the time of writing unknown - does that rather punch holes in the knee-jerk reaction that he must be an immigrant terrorist, which is the bandwagon the usual suspects would jump on - if they had ever jumped of it in the first place?

[Samjenko]

off

[Peter Pedant]

//Ah, so it's all Enoch's fault, is it?//

yes in the late seventies and eighties I used to enjoy reminding my elders and betters that it all started with Enoch Powell

my very much elders and infinitely betters didnt enjoy the experience much ...

[-Talbot-]

The fact this man is British born, and not linked to any terrorist organisation, and the reasons for his actions are, at the time of writing unknown - does that rather punch holes in the knee-jerk reaction that he must be an immigrant terrorist, which is the bandwagon the usual suspects would jump on - if they had ever jumped of it in the first place?





So rule alert


So the problem is not immigration it is Islam?