Trafalgar Square Vigil

[emmie]

for those who lost their lives and those injured. How many more will e
have to suffer i wonder.

[-Talbot-]

As it happens I don't fully agree with what Islay said, nor do I agree that you have translated her statement correctly.


Feel free to translated her statement correctly for me then ff.

[fiction-factory]

No need to translate it . Just read it and retype it.
We might disagree to different degrees with what Islay said but the meaning is exactly what it said and is totally different to your twisted interpretation/misunderstanding, togo
Of course if Islay comes on and said you read between the lines correctly then I will take my hat off to you.

[Samjenko]

The night Lee Rigby was slaughtered there was a muslim woman on AB, another charmer, who said it was his/our fault for being unpleasant to muslims.
She was banned which I thought was a shame. It's both fascinating and informative to see how our enemies think.

[237SJ]

For goodness sake, stop being so ignorant and tarring everyone with the same brush.

[-Talbot-]

Who is that addressed to, sj?

[237SJ]

Samj

[Samjenko]

What on earth are you talking about, SJ?

[andy-hughes]

DT Crosswordfan - .//Coming down the Cromwell Road and just before the V&A, I spy an Arab in the full bedsheets and tea towel and thought, 'what a plonker you are, you are asking to be taken out.' //

If that was an off-duty solider walking down the street in Helmand, would you be happy for a Muslim to look at him and think the same thing?

Possibly you would - since it's only a change of nationalities and locations - the nasty violent horrible thinking is exactly the same, so if it's OK for you ...

[Togo]

//but the meaning is exactly what it said and is totally different to your twisted interpretation/misunderstanding, togo //
Now ff show me and indeed everyone "my interpretation/misunderstanding" . There was me thinking I could think for myself @21:01.
Then lo and behold @21:19 I'm a "bully" and in the meantime (not my words at all) Islay "didn't say that the killings would stop" ......Dead(pun intended) right she didn't,. Exactly the opposite in fact, a sort of threat unless we  are super nice to the mad murderers, it will get worse. Now when I or others predict such an outcome we are denigrated as............racist Nazis, and bigots. Perleease.

[-Talbot-]

I think he meant to type Talbot, Togo.

I knew he couldn't give me a interpretation.

[Togo]

Never mind Talbot, happy mischance allowed me to make a pointy point. :))

[anneasquith]

I got to the post " bed sheet and tea towel", its obvious how this thread is going, carry on .

[Togo]

Your off to make the bed and do the washing up?

[naomi24]

fiction-factory, your post relating to other terrorist groups in the past has no bearing whatsoever on what is happening now. The only reason for posting that was to attempt to give a false impression that the level of threat Europe is facing hasn’t increased since the 1970s. You and I both know that is nonsense.

[anotheoldgit]

fiction-factory

/// There were other vigils too. I wish i could have gone to one. It's important to show solidarity, ///

Couldn't agree more, but the uncomfortable truth is there will never be togetherness or solidarity, amongst all faiths.

The scenes in Trafalgar Square were witness to that, why weren't the 'peaceful' Muslims and their Imams out in force, joining those others in togetherness and solidarity?

Even the Police Chief was in attendance, but used his TV air time to warn those who might contemplate hate crime, that the full weight of the law would swiftly come down on them.

Perhaps he should have also used some of that time, warning potential terrorists of the same?

[andy-hughes]

AOG - //The scenes in Trafalgar Square were witness to that, why weren't the 'peaceful' Muslims and their Imams out in force, joining those others in togetherness and solidarity? //

If you were a Muslim - easily identified of course, as you know by anyone glancing in your direction - and given the way huge swathes of people regard all Muslims as murdering terrorists - would you step into a crowd holding a vigil like this?

I wouldn't!

[ummmm]

Muslims were out raising money for the families of the victims. Google it. The first report I read they had raised £3k within an hour!!

[Samjenko]

They were out in force after the Charlie Hebdo murders.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944946/Thousands-British-Muslims-protest-against-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-publishing-cartoons-Prophet-Mohammed.html

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

It says it was Muslim led, but didn't say the money raised was from Muslims alone.

/// The project, Muslims Unite for London, was set-up by Muddassar Ahmed who was in Parliament when the attack happened ///

But well done all the same, nice to see the money will be decided amongst all the unfortunate victims or their families