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Would It Be A Good Idea Now Or In The Future

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emmie | 13:29 Fri 21st Apr 2017 | News
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to let 16, 17 year old have the vote, this was from a
Debate on Matthew Wright show this morning.
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I partly agree with TTT. I think anyone responsible for electing a member off the government should have some experience of life as an adult.
13:48 Fri 21st Apr 2017
It doesn’t really matter anyway; you may as well toss a coin and save the wasted time and money. It is not coincidence that votes for and against EU membership, for Clinton or Trump, etc. are so evenly divided, it is because the vast majority haven’t got a clue and go for one of them. Occasionally someone comes along who has charisma and attracts more, like Maggie or Tony Blair, or one that puts people off like Jeremy Corbyn, but voters then are only going off the personality and not the politics. People select a party and convince themselves that they know what they are doing, and they read media sources that back up their choices, but most don’t really know what they are doing. There are some exceptions of course, and probably a few on here, but they are the minority.
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And where would you come in that Allen?
"...the teens I met were very vocal about Brexit
especially the bit about oldies voting only in their narrow self- interest"

Yes indeed. I saw the results of a survey the other day which said about one in four 18-25 year olds believed the date of Easter was set each year by the EU. So indoctrinated have they become with the idea that life without the EU is impossible that it's little wonder they are so keen on it. They need it, they believe, simply to stay alive.

Never mind. When we oldies are all dead and gone and the EU has disintegrated chaotically into rubble they will thank us for getting the UK out of the car before it crashed.
My son is still bleating on about my generation ruining the housing market.
//My son is still bleating on about my generation ruining the housing market.//

Your son is right.

And there was me thinking this was a serious question.
But you haven't proffered an answer.
Using Allen's IQ system, I'd be disenfranchised but my eldest Grandson would be in.
No, he is not right and that clearly shows why young people should not have a vote. I'm with TTT here, whilst there are young adults who are clued up, most are not. If you said you were going to give free grog every Sat night to them they would vote you in.

In addition they are still at school and so open to indoctrination from idealist teachers who also have no idea on real life. That cannot be right.
He certainly knows more about politics than me.
But what politics?

And it is not just politics you need to be aware of is it?
All politics. Politics interest him.
//Never mind. When we oldies are all dead and gone and the EU has disintegrated chaotically into rubble they will thank us for getting the UK out of the car before it crashed...

You surprise me, NJ. Don't you realise that whatever bad happens in the future will the fault of our generation taking us out of Europe and leading it to disintegrate, whether it had anything to do with it or not.
Or whether only just over 50% of 'our generation' wanted out?
"//My son is still bleating on about my generation ruining the housing market.//

Your son is right."

How so? Most of the people I know have bought a house, raised their children in it and either remained in it or downsized, as they prefer. Others I know have rented a house or flat. The reason there are housing problems is not that there are too few houses but there are too many people. Without the natural increase created by people already here, net migration amounted to over over a quarter of a million people for each and every one of the past sixteen years. No country can accommodate that sort of growth, especially when many of the new arrivals do not have sufficient funds to properly finance their housing needs. The only people of the older generation to blame for the housing crisis are the politicians who have presided over such unsustainable immigration levels.
I've heard it said before and I don't understand how we've ruined the housing market (I'm in my early 40's)
Yes they should have a vote.
// but personally I think that society is maturing ever later and at 30 most of them can't wipe their own jacksy,//

an effect of age I think
an american vet told me that the average age of captains in the US navee during the pacific war ( 1941-5) was 21
and Dennis Healey was a beachmaster on D Day at age 28
// I've heard it said before and I don't understand how we've ruined the housing market (I'm in my early 40's)//

this is a votes at 5 or fifty discussion innit

never mind - things go too fast for me at my age

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