Which Party Is Best For Nhs

[eve1974]

In your opinion which party is the party who would be able to support / invest in the NHS best?

Realistically...

[mikey4444]

Labour of course ! But I would say that, wouldn't I !

Look back at the last 7 years of Tory rule.....we have seen the almost complete breakdown in the Social care program.

[eve1974]

Well I do like the sounds of Jezza's promises for NHS ...but fail to see how he can realistically implement them. Convince me I'm wrong pls.
Due to circumstances (hubby extremely ill with leukaemia) I'm looking at voting with different eyes this time and want to know who can support the NHS the most.\

[Baldric]

Labour were in power for quite a while a few years ago, remind us, exactly what did they do for the NHS during that period?

[Sqad]

It doesn't matter one iota which party you vote for as the situation is now chronic due to decades of decline......both Parties involved.
Liken it to a terminal cancer where one can make the demise as comfortable as possible.....and that is all that need be said on "State Medicine"

[mikey4444]

Eve....realistically you only have 2 choices....its either Labour or the Tories.

[Hopkirk]

Don't forget the financial situation left by the Labour government when the Tories took over, Mikey. Not an ideal building block.

[Baldric]

And remember the only thing Labour achieve every time they are in charge is to bring the Country to the brink of bankruptcy by the time they are removed.

[donny48]

If I wanted the moon there is a party or a politician out there who before the election would say yes then backslide afterwards.

[eve1974]

In the past Ive voted conservative ...however they seem to be pushing the privatisation of NHS (even tho Theresa May says she isn't).

[eve1974]

I like Jeremy Corby's NHS promises ...but fail to see how he can deliver them.

[naomi24]

When you consider all the expensive promises Labour is making (its proposed tax on big business has already been spent, metaphorically, several times over), realistically it’s impossible to see how they can possibly fulfil them. Only a fool would place any faith at all in Labour. It’s a complete and utter shambles.

[emmie]

i would say that the tories but i am equally biased as Mikey is to Labour.
Neither comes out with credit on the NHS, but as far as i can see its a bottomless pit no matter how much is promised to pump into it.

[emmie]

Corbyn can make promises from here to Christmas but that doesn't mean he will make the NHS any better. As you say where does the money come from....

[mikey4444]

Emmie.....the situation with the NHS and its associated Care System has got progressively worse over the last few years and especially the last winter. That cannot be denied.

Labour may not do any better, although my belief is that they could and would, but why would anyone vote for the Party that has presided over this near collapse since 2010 ?

[emmie]

basically Mikey because i have seen the mess that Labour have made in the past, and the Tories always have to step in to clear it up.

[baza]

People voted pre 2010 for the other lot and they made a poor job of the NHS.

[mikey4444]

Emmie....so why, after 7 years of Tory rule, is the NHS is such a parlous state ?

If the Tories were so good at heath issues, surely we wouldn't have the problems that we have today ?

[New Judge]

Eve is quite correct in that no matter how much money is pumped into the NHS it will not provide everything that everybody needs. There are simply too many demands upon its services. Further than that it is hopelessly bureaucratic and inefficient. Both main parties are equally culpable in presiding over that decline and the main reason for it is that there are simply too many people in the UK. (Virtually all the UK’s ills stem from over-population).

Since the population is not set to decline in numbers any time soon the party that recognises the problem for what it is and pledges to remodel the NHS (meaning much of it will no longer be free at the point of delivery) will be the most successful. I can see neither of the main parties pledging to do that so I believe we’re stuck with a failing system that will worsen. To cure illness a doctor has to identify not only the symptoms but also the cause. So it is with the ailments the NHS suffers from only it's politicians that need to accept where the problems lie.

[KARL]

New Judge is correct inasmuch as the present model of the NHS is unsustainable both managerially and financially. One of the central problems, which are several/many, is that the institution has a certain mythical shape/form in the public imagination and politically it is a holy-cow totem. Every political party falls over itself in making promises in reaction to public clamour, while all the while knowing that the NHS is way past its "best by" date. For some decades now, sticking plaster has been placed on sticking plaster to the point where the original beast can hardly be seen under the pile - but that is very British and applies to virtually all aspects of state management because of the inability to make (and/or chronic fear of making) radical/serious improvements that properly aim for realistic solutions - meaning the classic British fear of change, better to muddle on somehow and pretend all is well. The last I recall, the NHS was somewhere in the very high teens on the list of international comparisons of effectiveness (cost and results for the population) of health services - all the while in the UK one hears/sees statements to the effect that the NHS is the best in the world. So what else is new ?

[whiskeryron]

Because the NHS is in serious decline no political party can save it. The time is near when it will collapse & we need serious discussions about it's future. All of us who require a National Health Service must be prepared to pay more for it. We are quite happy to pay out huge sums of money for new cars & tvs but it would appear very reluctant to pay for our health.