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Well well, I'm surprised but good enough for him.
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Dougie....I think it was inevitable this time.

But, just like a useless football club Manager, he will soon pop up again somewhere else !
Hmmm, not sure he was 'sacked'

All other headlines read that there were 'negotiations' to leave. Sounds more like a mutual thing rather than 'Get out your fired'

Of course he will go somewhere else, he needs to work like most of us. Would you deny a man a living?
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ymb...lets not bandy words here.....he has clearly been sacked.

Of course I would deny this ogre work, but he has to realise that he needs to watch his words carefully. To compare a footballer to a drug seller and a gorilla is clearly beyond the pale.
... but it's acceptable to call him an ogre. Just saying.
Of course I would deny this ogre work, but he has to realise that he needs to watch his words carefully.




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Point well made, Naomi.
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For would, please read wouldn't !
There is a big difference between being sacked and negotiating a leave. One you are out on your ear, the other you get terms.

It's here in your favourite rag who are not taking quite such a rabid view as you. It is not banding words there is a huge difference.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/may/08/the-sun-owner-in-discussions-with-kelvin-mackenzie-over-his-departure


BTW, for the record I cant stand the man.
//BTW, for the record I cant stand the man. //

nor me. but how many on here knew - before all this kicked off - that Ross Barkley was of mixed race?
Well I hadn't even heard of the man before all this nonsense.
I am sure The Mail is making space for him as I write.
Mackenzie is a thoroughly nasty piece of work who has spent his career destroying the lives and reputations of people......many of whom did not have the wherewithal to seek redress.

I hope he struggles to find employment but suspect he won't...
jack - I agree he won't struggle.

MacKenzie has built a strong profile for himself as a 'voice of the people'.

His strapline could well be the one awarded to The Mail's Sara Vine - 'Are you thinking what she's thinking?'' - to which I always mentally respond - if ever that day dawns, please kill me quickly!

Mackenzie will take his audience with him, and there will be a tabloid that wants that readership as I have said, my money is on The Mail, where he will fit right in.
Negations to leave,.......yep sacked.
No Anne, did you totally ignore my explanation because it doesnt fit you way of thinking? As usual.
anne - //Negations to leave,.......yep sacked. //

No, it's not the same thing.

If Mr Mackenzie had been sacked, the media would have said so.

Being sacked means that you are being dismissed because the company believes you have no comeback, and it is terminating employment with no compensation.

Negotiation's means that your employer is getting rid of you, but it is not terminating your contract with no pay-off, it is going to agree a settlement under the terms of which you will take an agreed payment for signing to say that you will not sue for more, and possibly that you are bound to silence on those terms.
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/// To compare a footballer to a drug seller and a gorilla is clearly beyond the pale. ///

This is what Kelvin Mackenzie actually said:

*** Mr Mackenzie also wrote that the only other people who could earn as much as footballers in Liverpool were drug dealers. ***

Regarding the Gorilla comment, I wonder how many apart from family and very close friends knew that, that particular footballer's grandfather was black?

Mikey with your skill at name calling and slanting the truth, have you thought of applying to the Sun for Mackenzie's job?
AOG - // Mikey with your skill at name calling and slanting the truth, have you thought of applying to the Sun for Mackenzie's job?

..... No, I can't be bothered ...

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