Should We Now Avoid Ibuprofen.?

[HansUrbancka]

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[Jackdaw33]

Don't say that. Sqad's share value will be wiped out.

[Sqad]

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Body-and-Soul/Question1551845.html

[Mamyalynne]

I fully agree with Sqad and Dave on the original thread.

[HansUrbancka]

It is the case that my question appears to have 'self posted' before I added further details.

I had intended to say that I often read in AB, recommendations to take Ibuprofen for all sorts of ailments. However, according to today's BBC News, there are dangers from following such advice.:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-39858179

Hans.

[HansUrbancka]

It has been known for a number years that Ibuprofen can raise blood pressure and cause strokes. The following link gives some 'up-to- date' views on the matter which I have raised :-

http://50wire.com/tag/IBUPROFEN

Hans.

[pixie374]

Pain also raises blood pressure though. Was the control group on different painkillers or on nothing? I can't see where it says in the link.

[HansUrbancka]

Hi pixie374... My understanding is that pain can raise Blood Pressure, but there is then the opposite effect that Blood pressure can actually reduce pain.

I think it appropriate for me to leave it to Sqad to answer the second part of your posting.

Hans.

[237SJ]

It should be used with caution (like most drugs)

[zebo]

Don't worry, there'll be another scare along shortly. Any medicine is dangerous in excess surely.

[sunny-dave]

This is not a 'scare' - it's a decent bit of research - I refer people again to the original thread which sqad and I made an effort to answer quite fully :

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Body-and-Soul/Question1551845.html

[Mamyalynne]

I didn't feel the need to add anything to what you said Dave as I mentioned above.

In fact I deal with my pain in a very similar way to your method.

[237SJ]

SD - you were talking about negating the effects that NSaids have on the stomach - this latest article is about the heart attack risk which is a different issue altogether.

[Sqad]

I am reluctantly adding to this post as there is already a post going where i have made my opinions felt.
So these comments may be of some help.
When you are in pain....you need a painkiller.
The choice is between Paracetamol which is not a non steroidal anti-inflamatory( Nsaid) and a Nsaid e.g ibuprofen.
If your pain is due to problems in a joint then Ibuprofen is better as we are dealing with inflammation, but if your pain is just a headache, then paracetamol is the drug of choice. You choice the drug that eases you pain.
The study showed that patients taking large doses of ibuprofen for more than a week had a 1% chance of heart problems, although it couldn't positively be established that the ibuprofen was the cause.
Studies have shown that patients being treated for high BP can take Ibuprofen as it does not raise the BP.
As for patients who are not being treated for high BP then, depending which study you prefer, there may well be a slight rise in BP.
So the choice is yours.

[Everhelpful]

Does that include Ibuprofen Gel used on the Ankle Joints?

[Baldric]

I'm curious as to what SDs qualifications are tbh.

[HansUrbancka]

@Sqad.....Why have you said ......"I am reluctantly adding to this post as there is already a post going where i have made my opinions felt".

I was unaware of your posting to Ann, of which it could be said that the thread ceased at 11.23 and did Not resume until 20.04.

Bearing in mind what has been said above by 237SJ, am I to assume that you are unable to deal with two patients at different times in the same Surgery. ?

Hans.

[Mamyalynne]

But you were made aware of the other thread 5 minutes after posting this one - maybe Sqad thought his reply there sufficed.

[237SJ]

The palliative team that dealt with my Mum when she had breast cancer in her bones always advocated Paracetamol. That is a drug that can be taken long term. I don't think Nsaids can be taken long term. They have their place in short term use but they are no wonder drug.

[Mamyalynne]

Agree there - Paracetamol is the first I turn to followed if needs be by stepping up to CoCodamol.

I rarely have Ibuprofen unless in a bad place when a more complex regime is advised.

[237SJ]

In my place of work we use paracetamol, Temgesic and Nubain (among other drugs) We would never use Nsaids due to the side effects on the stomach which could lead to litigation issues.