Can A Landlord Not Let To Who He Wants?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-39948832

[Garaman]

TTT, how many more times! You would be breaking the law if you refused on certain grounds, whether or not you declare those grounds. If it would get proven is another matter.

[ToraToraTora]

yes that is why you do not refuse on certain grounds, Jeez!

[andy-hughes]

I think you can read this situation as well as anyone else TTT, you just want to make it an issue because you seem to see it as a matter of choice, when it's not, it's a matter of law.

The gentleman has the same rights as anyone else offering a service - he is entitled to refuse without giving a reason. Now that reason maybe because he is a racist, but you can't be prosecuted for what you think (yet!) so he can simply stay silent and remain within the law.

One of the main problems with bigotry is that it often goes hand in hand with arrogance - it's not sufficient for you simply to be a small-minded nasty ignorant twonk, you have to make the world aware of that fact, in loud voice, usually by advising the said world that you are someone who 'believes in plain speaking'.

This man is a bigot, which is his own affair, but he makes his bigotry the subject of his loud mouth, and that makes it the law's affair as well.

If he could learn to dial down the arrogance and simply be a bigot on the quiet, no-one would know, and he could, as suggest, let his properties to who he wants.

[ToraToraTora]

"The gentleman has the same rights as anyone else offering a service - he is entitled to refuse without giving a reason. Now that reason maybe because he is a racist, but you can't be prosecuted for what you think (yet!) so he can simply stay silent and remain within the law." - finally tell garaman!

[Garaman]

TTT? We are discussing whether a landlord can turn a tenant down on certain grounds, jeez!

[Baldric]

Like I said

If someone who is not Ex-Service turns up then we just do not have a vacancy, simples.
We have very few problems.

[Mamyalynne]

I've had my say on Mr Wilson before on here and that stands - he should keep quiet.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // ... finally tell garaman! //

I think that Garaman's post at 19:54 confirms that he already understands the point that I, and others, have made previously.

[Prudie]

Baffling. Only 15 years ago when I was renting in the private market nearly every vacancy said 'No DSS, no children, no pets, no smokers' and no outrage

[Garaman]

I suspect it would still be legal to refuse all those, Trudie.

[Garaman]

Sorry, Prudie.

[youngmafbog]

Yes Prudie, that is what we demand too. We have turned people away also on grounds they do not have the ability to pay or have failed background checks.

No Asian tenants have every come to us, even when we had some properties in a predominately Asian area. We put it down to they seem to rent to 'their own', rarely did a for rent sign go up but properties changed hands. Maybe that culd be considered racist too if you really were looking for something to moan about?

[mikey4444]

A few people on this thread seem to have ignored the point in question. Wilson has already said that he discriminates against people for racist reasons and that is why he being taken to court.

[naomi24]

Where did he say that?

[Garaman]

As a landlord myself I do understand his concern over the smell. I wouldn't like one of my flats left smelling of curry as it can last for a very long time, and I don't think that alone is racist.

[youngmafbog]

I have re-read the article and I can see nowhere where he has admitted being a racist.

Can you point it out to me where that is?

[ToraToraTora]

as far as I can tell he just doesn't want his drums reeking of ruby and wants the best chance he can to get the burton paid. I think most landlords would chime with that.

[anotheoldgit]

Baldric

/// If someone who is not Ex-Service turns up then we just do not have a vacancy, simples.
We have very few problems. ///

Do they have to show you their discharge papers?

[Baldric]

Quiet News Day is it AOG?
Most people who have spent a while in the Services can recognise others with similar experience. As I'm sure you know there are a few Walts about, usually easily spotted in course of a chat.

[Bazile]

//ad nauseam. " - wrong, it is the basic tennet of British law, the management reserve the right to refuse service. This chap made the mistake of explaining why, then it becomes a target for all the ism counters. If he simply refused with no explanation there'd be no issue. //

So the people who refused to bake the cake for the gay couple , should have given a different reason and not given the true explanation ?