Should These Missing Tower Block Residents Be Granted Amnesty?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/mayor-of-london-sadiq-khan-backs-amnesty-on-illegal-immigrants-who-lived-in-grenfell-tower-at-time-a3570446.html

[kvalidir]

I was just going to say Ed, I've never seen anyone actually link to a Breitbart post in any seriousness. Shocking AOG, I think you're better than that :/

[anotheoldgit]

AB Editor

Apples and Oranges??????

Don't get fruity towards me Ed. :0)

/// Not sure what you think it adds to the debate? ///

The same as what others have added to the debate, or do I have to be particularity careful?

/// I hope you've not switched from the Mail to Bannon's detestable MAGAzine. ///

Oh dear is that also an AnswerBank not recommended news source.

[AB Editor]

It has happened before Kvalidir, when AOG linked to stormfront without realising quite what that place is all about. I thought Breitbart would be well known enough for this not to be a mistake however.

For a little overview, Buzzfeed did a list, including the very exciting "black crime" tag they use which isn't a sign of their mad racism in any way obviously: https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/here-are-some-of-the-most-controversial-stories-published-by?utm_term=.os3WRp92DR#.gbyd6v4En6

[anotheoldgit]

kvalidir

I know nothing about Breitbart, I just carried out a particular Google search, appertaining to the subject under discussion and that came up.

Perhaps I had better stick to the Guardian, the Independent or the BBC?

[Peter Pedant]

jesus this thread is glowing with the milk of human kindness

those who are here illegally still have rights ( not to be incinerated by their landlord is a right that springs to mind )

I really expected one of the usual suspects to perk up and say
amnesty ? only if they are dead !

[AB Editor]

"The same as what others have added to the debate, or do I have to be particularity careful?"

I just meant, we can worry about "homeless veterans" and some people whose lives got burnt the other weekend without deciding on one or the other.

Why is this the context that "homeless veterans " is brought up in? It wasn't part of your argument last week...

And yes AOG, Brietbart is a hate rag. As you know!

[anotheoldgit]

AB Editor

Are you not side-tracking this thread a little ED? Something that generally seems to end up with the thread being removed.

[Peter Pedant]

// Perhaps I had better stick to the Guardian, the Independent or the BBC? //

well you would certianly end up better educated !

Has Steve Bannon gone back to Breitbart ? Stevie B when he was at the White House was the one who drafted the original ban on immigration order. This was so badly drafted that the Fed attorney general forbade anyone to defend it ( = obviously didnt comply with the law ). She lost her job and so has he

just saying

[AB Editor]

"Perhaps I had better stick to the Guardian, the Independent or the BBC?"

There's tons of centre, conservative and right-leaning publications to read out there with actual journalists working for them.

[kvalidir]

I think any reputable middle ground, slightly left or slightly right news source is fine AOG but far anything hate peddlars generally not, and certainly not Stormfront and Breitbart, some on you don;'t want to be associated with them do you, really?

[AB Editor]

Just have a bit of respect as to the veracity of the information you're consuming. Currently it's garbage.

[anotheoldgit]

AB Editor

/// And yes AOG, Brietbart is a hate rag. As you know! ///

I know nothing of the kind, but since you have labelled it a hate rag, I suppose it all depends on what side of the political spectrum one stands.

[AB Editor]

Not really AOG, most sensible people agree! When you're bashing people because they're part of a "jewish conspiracy" then you're probably not really making a cohesive argument in good faith!

My apologies for assuming you knew however.

[trt]

## How many thousands would claim to have been living there if this went ahead? ##

My thoughts exactly hopkirk, it would open the floodgates.

Never heard anymore about the Syrian family that turned up a couple of days ago, who never informed anybody they were ok, after people thought they were all dead!

[anotheoldgit]

This from the recent attack outside
Finsbury mosque, can't see anything different in the reporting from any other journal, why they even included this piece.

/// “Rampant Islamaphobia [sic] has been on the rise for a number of years and those on the far right have perpetuated hatred against Muslims. They should be called out for their hatred. ///

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/18/reports-van-incident-london-mosque-several-people-injured/

[AB Editor]

AOG, I'm not going to enter into a debate where you pick a few reasonable quotes from between the trash.

[anotheoldgit]

AB Editor

/// When you're bashing people because they're part of a "jewish conspiracy" ///

I also know nothing at all of this, so I bow to your superior knowledge, obviously you read Breitbart much, much more, than the couple of times that I have come across it.

[-Talbot-]

No.

I don't think anyone else should benefit from doing something illegal, why should an immigrant?

Could it encourage copycat fires?

[anotheoldgit]

AB Editor

My eyes have been opened over our little discussion, so that we can put a lid over all this, can I have your assurance that if in the future I or anyone else for that matter wishes to quote a section of your hated journal, it will not be removed or the person banned?

[EDDIE51]

At least this has answered something that I have wondered about for a while now. I had considered the hypothesis that AOG was actually a sort of 'devil's advocate' within AB . In the way that when a person considered for beatification has to have a Vatican appointed 'devil's advocate' to put forward the negative view .