Pressure Grows On No 10 To Scrap Public Sector Pay Cap

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40471474

Some light at the end of the tunnel at last perhaps ?

[Cloverjo]

Hopefully. Can't the lovely Theresa shake her newly-found magic money tree to find a bit more to stop crapping on people we all rely on?

[mikey4444]

Jo....I think its ironic that the people that have become so important to us in the last few weeks and months...firemen, NHS staff, etc, are the very ones that have had pay cuts for the last few years.

But not MPs you will notice !

[naomi24]

Pay cuts?

[Cloverjo]

In real terms, they are pay cuts.

[Islay]

Yes Naomi pay cuts, I earn £500 a month less than I did 10 years ago, with all the changes they have made to our salaries and pensions!

[mikey4444]

Thanks Jo...obvious to me. When these public sector workers have been limited to 1% pay every year, but the rate of inflation has been higher, then effectively they have had pay cuts.

[naomi24]

Islay, if basic salary has increased consistently, albeit by a little, then I presume the deficit has resulted from other factors?

[Islay]

Naomi not every person gets 1%! 1% is the max you can get! but tie that in with the changes in our pensions and years of pay freezes and other changes brought in by successive governments results in a pay cut!

[naomi24]

Islay, right. So other factors are relevant. Thanks for that.

[Islay]

The other factors have been brought in as part of the 1% paycap

[mikey4444]

7 years of a pay cap of 1% is ridiculous.

[webbo3]

perhaps we could sell some of our gold reserves.................Oh hang on.!

[webbo3]

the last couple of jobs I had we didn't any pay rise.

[Islay]

webbo, if you call £2 a month before deductions a payrise then I am sorry!

[webbo3]

I work for the NHS and get two payrises a year, the annual increment and the 1%.

And as I said other jobs I have had some years I never got a payrise.

Dave.

[Islay]

I work for the civil service and my 'payrise' this year is £2 a month!

[scooping]

Even many of us Tories would like to see modest tax increases (ones that don't penalise the poorest) to fund modest increases in public sector pay. But part of the deal should see changes, at some stage, to public sector pensions, which are hugely disproportionate in comparison to private sector workers. That would not go down well but the figures are obscenely unfair and private sector workers are, in effect, paying for public sector pensions.

[Islay]

Scooping what do you think the public sector pensions consist of?
How much do you think us public sector workers get?

[scooping]

Islay; Try this one.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/pensions-retirement/financial-planning/pensions-apartheid-how-public-and-private-systems-compare/

[Islay]

There are so many things wrong in that article I am not sure where to begin
Final salary pensions not longer exist and haven't for over 8 years (at least in my part of the civil service)
They base their calculations on a 4% payrise which has not been in place for over 7 years most people don't even get 1%.
I can assure you I pay a lot more than 7.1% towards my pension
I earn more than £22000 but will not retire on a salary of £45500 never in a month of sundays and I have already worked for the civil service for 21 years!!
So perhaps you may need to do some further research before believing everything you read in the papers!!