Why Only 15 Years Minimum For This Savage?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-40485852
Should throw away the key if you ask me.

[hereIam]

That beautiful, beautiful baby, what a terrible waste. I hate him with every ounce of my being and yes, 30 years would not be enough. All I can hope is that he suffers hell in those 15 years.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // so pleading guilty makes it less of a crime does it? Perhaps in the Islay dimension that no one can comprehend.//

And the So Rule strikes again.

You can`t castigate Islay for stating a fact, because you assume on no evidence that she thinks the fact she is stating is OK with her.

[naomi24]

I haven't read all the posts but I agree with TTT's thoughts in his OP.

[EDDIE51]

As I have to explain time and again on here there is only one possible sentence for murder and that is 'life'. The judge has set a tariff of 11 years. This means that 11 years has to pass before the offender can even start the process of an appeal to the parole board, it DOES NOT mean release after 11 years! Very few appeals get parole at the first attempt and I am certain this one will be no different. An appeal to the parole board takes 2 to 5 years, if lost the offender has to start again from the beginning so another 2 to 5 years. Finally a 'lifer' can never be fully free they can only ever be free on 'licence' . They can be returned to prison at any time without another trial if they break any of the conditions of their licence, so in that sense Life does mean life !

[andy-hughes]

Thanks Eddie - a little much needed rational perspective on an emotive issue.

[naomi24]

Eddie, TTT is saying that this man should have been sentenced to life - meaning life - whole life - and I agree with him.

[douglas9401]

If it helps Eddie, your 'have to explain time and time again' is up there with the 'rule of so'.

Both mere figments and therefore surplus to requirements. That should take the pressure off for the future.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // Eddie, TTT is saying that this man should have been sentenced to life - meaning life - whole life - and I agree with him. //

As would anyone.

[andy-hughes]

Douglas - // If it helps Eddie, your 'have to explain time and time again' is up there with the 'rule of so'. //

No it`s not.

I point out the `So`rule in an effort to encourage people not to post spurious points and argue with imagined viewpoints - if they stop doing it, I`ll stop pointing it out - but no sign of that yet!

[Mamyalynne]

I hope that he never manages to convince a Parole Board he is fit for any sort of release, however many times he tries.

[naomi24]

douglas, well said. You always make me laugh. :o)

[andy-hughes]

Mamya - //I hope that he never manages to convince a Parole Board he is fit for any sort of release, however many times he tries.//

Looking at what he has done, and his apparent absence of explanation and / or remorse, it`s fair to say he is going to have something of an uphill struggle on that one!

[douglas9401]

Just because you say it doesn't make it, er, so.

There is no rule, not out here in the real world anyway.

Maybe you're confusing it with the rule of sew which often has me in stitches.

[andy-hughes]

Douglas - you`re such a card!!!

[Mamyalynne]

I am sure you're right there Andy.


I'll leave it now, said all I need, won't join in with the comedy.

[ToraToraTora]

no need to explain eddie, I know, but it's wrong, life should mean life behind bars, not and arbitrary amount of time then let out to live like a free person with a few minor inconveniences. I absolve you from ever explaining it again, I get it but I think it is wrong.

[trt]

I know the USA has many faults, but there, life is life, and this bloke would never have seen the outside of a prison again,

[hc4361]

Not in every state, trt.

[ummmm]

Andy - your 'so' rule is boring and tedious. Give it a rest!

[TWR]

why should this piece of scum be fed and watered.