Girl Raped Twice

[fender62]

did not notice this on the main news, unless i missed it, or it was not shown, despicable horrendous thing to do, maybe coordinated, the description both asian looking.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4736452/Girl-15-raped-TWICE-two-different-men-day.html

[Sqad]

ummmm....who said? Besides you of course.
I suppose, psychatrists, psychologists, psycho-sexual "experts". ......and anyone else who would deny the obvious.

[mikey4444]

Appalling.

[ummmm]

Maybe so. I can't see the nationality of the victim.

[ummmm]

Sqad - how about the words of the rapists I've worked with?

[anotheoldgit]

I too can't understand this 'power' explanation.

A man can show power over a women in numerous of ways, without the need for sexual intercourse.

And what about if the rapist is a woman? Oh yes it has been known to happen.

[Sqad]

ummmm....I don't know and without listening to the tone of the interviewer or the answers of the interviewee, then I cannot comment.
I base my opinion on being a male for well over half a century, indulging in male conversation, social intercourse and male desires and comments concerning the shape, size, smell, dress and availability of women. e.g "I bet she likes plenty of it"......" Blimey, I couldn't 'arf give her one".....and so on and so forth.
But i must confess, I have knowingly not spoken to a rapist.

[-Talbot-]

Is your last sentence correct, sqad?

[Sqad]

talbot.....LOL.....I got carried away.
"I haven't knowingly spoken to a rapist."

[ummmm]

Take the scenario of a young man breaking into an elderly strangers house and raping her. Where's the sexual attraction in that?

Admittedly...there are different reasons why men rape but a lot of the time it's about power and humiliation.

Look at other crimes that do the same but don't end in rape. But they still use power and humiliation against their victims...and torture.

[GenuineclAss]

Where was her friend and why did she end up alone with this man? Also I'd like to know if they have DNA from both rapists?
Asian men see white women as prostitutes because many have sex before they get married. If the first man took her virginity, that is also a huge feather in his cap. I hope not. A girls 'first time' is seldom a fun experience, but I wouldn't blame this girl for becoming a nun after what she's been through.

[ummmm]

I was wondering about the friend too...

[Sqad]

ummmm
"take the scenario of a young man breaking into an elderly strangers house and raping her."
I would thought that these types of rapes are in the minority, but i agree, not much sexual attraction. But sexual attraction is complex.....how about the necrophiliac, turned on by dead bodies ( rare I agree) remember the film Crash....sexually turned on by accident scenes, then there are men turned on by seeing women urinate........all sorts of scenarios stimulate sexual attraction.

I don't think that crimes that don't end up in rape form a part of this discussion.

[GenuineclAss]

Sqad - I remember a long while ago where you said that women enjoy being raped. You also admitted to Mamya that you had 'raped' although it sounded as though it was a 'game'. If somebody close to you was raped, maybe you'd finally see how devastating it is to that person. Not fun, not a 'game' - a horrendous, often debilitating and humiliating experience that the victim will never forget!

[Sqad]

Genuin....you have a good memory and i too remember it well

"I remember a long while ago where you said that women enjoy being raped. You also admitted to Mamya that you had 'raped' although it sounded as though it was a 'game'."

I fell that you haven't told the complete story.......I said that "many women admitted to the fantasy of being raped and I gave a couple of examples.
It was also about the definition of rape and according to the definition that Mamya was supporting, penetration against the will of the recipient, then most men could be labelled as rapists. Also at that time, there was a lengthy thread on whether one could have "degrees of rape".....so please interpret my past comments in the context of the " mood at the time."

[trt]

# Ummmm, in this case I don't think these savages thought about power. they just wanted sexual satisfaction. #

And probably, because most white British females, wont date them etc, because of their different beliefs, and life styles, so they think its ok to just help themselves, when they get sexually aroused.

[ummmm]

Do men really spot a girl and get instantly aroused?

[mccfluff]

i work with and am related to quite a few asian men and this is not my experience of how they interact with women. I appreciate I can't mind read so perhaps everyone of my relatives as i was growing up was fantasizing about raping me, my female cousins and aunts....

how ridiculous does that sound.....

i work with quite a few men of various religons and skin colours and apart from the two nutters i work every day on the whole i tend to find most men are pretty respectful of boundaries . (and yes i'm sure in their heads they are salivating over every female that walks by *sigh*)

[pastafreak]

Well,according to Jimmy Carter's infamous quote, he...and other men...would be forgiven by God.

// I've looked on many women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times. God knows I will do this and forgives me//
So that's ok then...?

[Sqad]

" I can't mind read so perhaps everyone of my relatives as i was growing up was fantasizing about raping me, my female cousins and aunts.... "

I agree it does sound ridiculous.....because it IS ridiculous.
Nobody is saying that all your relatives (presumably Asian)or ALL anybody else's relatives are fantasising about rape, but all one is doing is entering this into the equation of causes of rape.

"and yes i'm sure in their heads they are salivating over every female that walks by *sigh*) "
Nobody has suggested or insinuated that, that is the case.

[Sqad]

pasta......yes......that's OK.