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Wear Our Gay Pride Badge Or You Can't Meet The People, The National Trust Tells It's Volunteers.
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Isn't this taking things a little too far?
Isn't this taking things a little too far?
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//You have just shown your colours with the normal comment!!//
At present, although clearly you would like it not be be Isaly, this is a free country.
It may also surprise you to learn that making laws does not change peoples attitudes, only time and education will do that. This drip drip of homosexuality and LBGT will not fix things, all it will do is stir up hatred amongst those who do not agree.
What you need are laws to stop anyone being persecuted for being gay and absolutely no discrimination; but done quietly. Acceptance will then follow in time as those not in agreement will not feel it is being forced upon them.
At present, although clearly you would like it not be be Isaly, this is a free country.
It may also surprise you to learn that making laws does not change peoples attitudes, only time and education will do that. This drip drip of homosexuality and LBGT will not fix things, all it will do is stir up hatred amongst those who do not agree.
What you need are laws to stop anyone being persecuted for being gay and absolutely no discrimination; but done quietly. Acceptance will then follow in time as those not in agreement will not feel it is being forced upon them.
> I rather wonder why it's an issue at all.
Perhaps an example would help. Suppose you were of a very religious persuasion and, even though you accepted that society was more tolerant of LGBTQ rights, you personally were not a supporter because it conflicted with your religious views. You had been a volunteer and stalwart supporter for NT for many years and had given many hours of your time freely to the organisation because you strongly supported its remit to be "a charity that works to preserve and protect historic places and spaces - for ever, for everyone" - including people like you. Perhaps then you would take issue with it.
Perhaps an example would help. Suppose you were of a very religious persuasion and, even though you accepted that society was more tolerant of LGBTQ rights, you personally were not a supporter because it conflicted with your religious views. You had been a volunteer and stalwart supporter for NT for many years and had given many hours of your time freely to the organisation because you strongly supported its remit to be "a charity that works to preserve and protect historic places and spaces - for ever, for everyone" - including people like you. Perhaps then you would take issue with it.
Agreed Ludwig, but that only works if the cloth ears at the top actually realise why you are withdrawing your free labour.
In addition many NT members and volunteers are passionate about the core reason the trust was setup. Diverting like this for the political or other ideals of one or two at the top needs to be addressed loudly. Just withdrawing labour would not do that and many would feel they are letting the Trust down in general when I suspect the majority do not agree with the couple at the top and their personal agenda's.
In addition many NT members and volunteers are passionate about the core reason the trust was setup. Diverting like this for the political or other ideals of one or two at the top needs to be addressed loudly. Just withdrawing labour would not do that and many would feel they are letting the Trust down in general when I suspect the majority do not agree with the couple at the top and their personal agenda's.
If the cause was one that was personally supported then it probably wouldn't occur there was a problem until someone pointed it out; at which point of course one would realise how wrong it was.
Of course the wearing of a support item indicates personal approval, especially when it has nothing to do with the company you are working for: it's nonsense to suggest otherwise. If there was no personal approval they'd refuse to be shoving that issue down the public's throat. A point underlined by the fact that it's questionably/arguably voluntarily given one can choose to be discriminated against instead.
Of course the wearing of a support item indicates personal approval, especially when it has nothing to do with the company you are working for: it's nonsense to suggest otherwise. If there was no personal approval they'd refuse to be shoving that issue down the public's throat. A point underlined by the fact that it's questionably/arguably voluntarily given one can choose to be discriminated against instead.
> The NT's prevarication over hunting perturbs me. This, however, does not, and I rather wonder why it's an issue at all.
OK, because you put "me" in the first part of your sentence, I took the second part to mean an issue for other individuals.
Why is this an issue? It's rather like the BA desk lady who was told she could not wear a crucifix to work was a public issue. In this case, NT volunteers are being told the equivalent of they MUST wear a crucifix to work. They are being told that they must express support for something that they may not necessarily believe in, on an issue that's far outside the remit of the NT, an organisation that receives a lot of public funding. That's why it is a wider issue.
OK, because you put "me" in the first part of your sentence, I took the second part to mean an issue for other individuals.
Why is this an issue? It's rather like the BA desk lady who was told she could not wear a crucifix to work was a public issue. In this case, NT volunteers are being told the equivalent of they MUST wear a crucifix to work. They are being told that they must express support for something that they may not necessarily believe in, on an issue that's far outside the remit of the NT, an organisation that receives a lot of public funding. That's why it is a wider issue.
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