I Take It They Are Not Worried About Housing Then.

[webbo3]

there is a housing shortage in London, so instead of a pub they can make a few flats for the residents of Grenfell to move into if they want it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4763298/London-planners-insist-new-flats-gay-bar.html


Dave.

[sp1814]

whiskeryron

Pubs maybe, but not bars.

Did you read the Weatherspoons point earlier?

[jackthehat]

///Why should licence payers have to watch other channels, just because the BBC chooses to kowtow to yet another minority group? ///

Oh dear, AOG.....most of the stuff has been on the *non-mainstream* channels and so licence-payers will not have been inconvenienced and had to forgo their usual viewing.
I, too, pay my licence.....by the way.

[anotheoldgit]

hc4361
/// You will be welcomed in any gay bar, youngmafbog - you don't have to prove your sexuality on entry. ///

No but you stand the chance of being pestering to find out what your sexuality is.

[jackthehat]

If you believe that to be true, AOG, I am surprised you are not firmly in favour of segregation.....

[Peter Pedant]

O god I must tell you another straignt pub story
I was in hospital and my brother was told I would have to ventilated
survival 20%
so he said outside - not to me - we had better go to the pub and recover. Railway Newton heath

and it was like a scene out of a vincent price christopher lee film
they went in - and all the clientele stopped talking and turned around and looked at them ....

[Peter Pedant]

o for gods sake AOG - go in and wear two pairs of underpants ( at least one clean)

[albaqwerty]

did they manage to get out safely PP or did summat happen to them?

I'm agog to hear the rest of this story....

[Mamyalynne]

There has been some marvellous television screened recently as a mark of the 50th Anniversary.


50 years of enlightenment eh? You have to laugh really.

[sp1814]

NJ

You posted:

//All the pubs I’ve ever used (and I’ve been in a few!) have been “gay friendly”. I have never been into a pub where gay people have been unwelcome or treated any differently to straight people.//

Can you explain how you know this?

Have you been to a pub where your many gay friends have kissed, and no-one has made a comment?

You also wrote:

//Of course that could be because few people, except perhaps the friends that they are with, would know the sexuality of any of the customers. The gay friends that I have no more demonstrate their sexuality when in a pub than I do.//

That's the point. In gay bars, you can chat up people in the (fairly) sure knowledge that you're not barking up the wrong tree. I assure you that the gay friend you do have would not demonstrate their sexuality in straight bars, because there's literally no point.

You then say:

//What is really meant by a “gay friendly” bar is one frequented exclusively by gay people who exhibit considerably different behaviour to most people (straight or gay).//

Nonsense. Gay friendly bars are rarely exclusively gay.

Go to any gay friendly establishment in Brighton or Manchester or London and you will see that they are NEVER exclusively gay. This is because unlike in the past, gay people have straight friends who go to gay bars with them. What you may be thinking of are gay bars from the past. It's not like that now. I understand why you may think that, but you're wrong.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// straight patrons will be expected to behave with tolerance towards the gay patrons. This does *not* happen in predominently straight bars/clubs. ///

Are you saying that gays are always tolerant towards straights?

[sp1814]

AOG

You wrote:

No but you stand the chance of being pestering to find out what your sexuality is.

No you wouldn't.

It doesn't happen that way.

[Zacs-Master]

She didn't say that at all. Are you saying they aren't?

[jackthehat]

AOG - I've yet to see a straight person/couple in a gay bar encounter the outright hostility and belligerence I have witnessed vice versa.....

[naomi24]

Zacs, referring to danny’s question. //Naomi, It's not a good question at all. It's an ignorant question.//

It was a good question – one that you clearly felt worthy of a definitive answer – which your subsequent link provided. (Your aggression has been incessant today. Sorry you’re having such a miserable time).

[whiskeryron]

//When two men can hold hands in the local Wetherspoons without somebody objecting there will be no need for gay bars. 13:20 Sat 05th Aug 2//. If anyone wished to object, who would they object to ?. Management would quite rightly tell them to get stuffed.

[sp1814]

AOG

You asked this:

Are you saying that gays are always tolerant towards straights?

That's not an equivocation.

[sp1814]

whiskeryron

Firstly, we have all seen stories where gay people have been asked to leave establishments where they have had the temerity to kiss each other.

Secondly, the point isn't whether someone will complain - it's about feeling comfortable that no-one WILL complain, and that there will be no dirty looks or comments (or worse).

[whiskeryron]

ENOUGH of this Gays & Straights. HUMANS PLEASE.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

Do you know I have been in many drinking establishments during my long life, but I have yet to see two heterosexuals kissing each other in any of them.

Time and a place for everything, one doesn't require a special bar.

[Zacs-Master]

Naomi, you mistake my aggression for frustration with people posting absolout tosh. There's a abundance of it on here. Day after day.