North Korea, Trump And The Odious Mr Kim

[scooping]

Last week the North Koreans were said to have ICBM capability to reach The States but unlikely to have nuclear warheads. Today the White House says they have 60 nuclear warheads that could be missile-launched. None of the mainstream media have yet explained why or how the narrative has changed.

[naomi24]

Oh, right. No one said it.

[mikey4444]

lol Jim !

[jim360]

I didn't make the claim that anyone had said it in the first place.

Still, the refrain about "missing the good old days" isn't exactly uncommon.

[naomi24]

Jim, //I wonder if this is what was meant by the idea of returning to the glorious 50s and 60s//

Well, you certainly implied that someone said it, but if it hasn't been said I can't see the point in posting it . Still, for some strange reason it seems to have amused Mikey. Moving on .....

[mikey4444]

I know that Kim is a wassock and can't be taken too seriously. But does he really think he can start a war with America and get away with it ?

You would have to be spectacularly stupid to think that it was possible. Lets hope Kim has more level-headed people around him.

[naomi24]

Mikey, //Lets hope Kim has more level-headed people around him. //

You are kidding, right? Level heads in that sort of society are generally removed - in one way or another.

[youngmafbog]

I wonder really what some expect Mr Trump to say? Do they think he should invite Mr Yo-jong for a cup of tea Corbyn style?

Kim Yo-jong is past diplomacy, he probably takes no notice of any sabre rattling or anger from the rest of the world either, he clearly lost the plot years ago.

Obama should have put this to bed before it got to the nuclear stage, but he didnt so The Donald will have to clear up the mess.

[ummmm]

I think they might be too scared to stand up to him, Mikey. He fed his own uncle to dogs!!

[youngmafbog]

//But does he really think he can start a war with America and get away with it ? //

Unfortunately the answer is yes. And that is the problem.

[jim360]

For some strange reason you saw fit to waste three posts trying to find a pedantic hole in a post that's best described as "wondering out loud".

In the long run the point I was making, such as it was, is that it's... well, scary to be as close as we appear to be to the genuine prospect of Nuclear strikes. I think the last time we were genuinely as close would be the 50s and 60s. And, to complete the link, when people say they miss "the good old days", do they mean that bit of it? Of course not, presumably.

And all wrapped up in a vague attempt at humour, partly because it's a not unreasonable way of trying to make the prospect of imminent disaster a little less scary.

[-Talbot-]

I don't get the joke shared by Jim & mikey ....

[jim360]

"Obama should have put this to bed before it got to the nuclear stage, but he didnt so The Donald will have to clear up the mess."

Even Trump isn't really blaming Obama for this mess; I think he's more concerned about China's role, and probably rightly so. As long as they weren't inclined to take serious action Obama couldn't either.

[-Talbot-]

There's an old adage ... never explain a joke, I'm not sure it apples to your original post though, Jim.

[jim360]

Harsh, but fair :P

[naomi24]

Jim, had your post not been confusing, or at least if you’d indicated that it was a joke(?) I wouldn’t have asked you to explain it.

When people speak of the good old days, the prospect of nuclear war doesn’t figure – obviously. I don't believe that anything makes that prospect less scary.

[youngmafbog]

So you dont think Obama should have sorted it out before NK got nuclear then jim?

[jim360]

I am not convinced he *could* have sorted it out is what I am saying. Maybe he could have tried harder; at the time I can't say I was paying enough attention, because it seemed to me that North Korea's posturing was primarily to impress its own citizens rather than as genuine warmongering. It seems that's changed; or, perhaps, I was just wrong all along.

[jim360]

"Jim, had your post not been confusing..."

I'm not one to believe in miracles.

[naomi24]

Mikey, //I know that Kim is a wassock and can't be taken too seriously//

He's a megalomaniac surrounded by sycophants. He has to be taken seriously.

[naomi24]

Jim, reading some of your posts lately I’m coming round to that way of thinking, but as I said ... moving on.