Bigots On Th E March In The State Of Virginia

[mikey4444]

Charlottesville: State of emergency over US far-right rally.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40912509

"The mayor condemned the march as a "parade of hatred".

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

Once again this is just another chance for you and others, along with the worlds media to have yet another dig at President Trump.

As I pointed out earlier he has condemned all sides, that should be good enough, in fact on the TV news last night his condemnation was taken quite seriously by one of his so called 'core voters' who criticised Trump by saying "don't forget it is us who voted you in".

[anotheoldgit]

When one reads what mikey has deemed the 'Best Answer', it makes one wonder why we bother.

[mikey4444]

AOG...Trump is just using weasel words. He can't afford to antagonise this very important part of his core vote.

Thank goodness Pence seems to have more sense.

[naomi24]

Mikey. It doesn’t follow that because the people in your video support Trump, he supports them!! Get a grip!

[mikey4444]

Naomi....he doesn't need to support them, but he needs their votes !

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// AOG...Trump is just using weasel words ///

Before of just accusing Trump of that, I should look at what you yourself come out with at times.

[ToraToraTora]

no different to Kim Jong Jezza not condemning Venezuela the other week.

[naomi24]

Mikey, I repeat, get a grip.

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// Naomi....he doesn't need to support them, but he needs their votes ! ///

All politicians of all countries and parties need votes, no matter where they come from.

[Kromovaracun]

There really is no point descending into "whataboutery", it's shallow and just makes false equivalencies.

A young woman has now been killed, ostensibly over a statue. This question should have been put to bed when the council voted. It's their jurisdiction and their responsibility. A bluddy statue is not worth killing over.

Also I just don't buy the idea that taking down a statue of Lee is "erasing" history, as people keep insisting. Commemoration is a choice, and it is an entirely different matter from simply recording history. Nobody is going to stop writing books about Lee or his role in the Civil War, or making documentaries, or movies, or whatever. Nobody is going to kill Lee as a figure in Southern popular memory. This particular city just chose to stop commemorating him, freely and fairly. There's really no case I can see that this statue represents "history" or its removal anything resembling "erasure." These people are not defending history, they're just using it as an excuse to hate on non-whites. That's why they were chanting "blood and soil" and "you will not replace us" - i.e. nothing to do with statues or history.

And of course Richard "Heil Trump" Spencer was there, as was the KKK's David Duke and all their merry band of followers... the people present were giving Nazi salutes (and also knew, I noticed, that you're supposed to tuck your thumb when you make one - i.e. not just doing it for show, these were committed ideologues).

[Kromovaracun]

Also I don't often agree with Mikey's language on issues like this, but if a group of people who march on a town screeching racist chants and Nazi slogans, making straight arm salutes, and driving cars into people who were there to counter-protest cannot accurately be called "bigots" then I really do not see how the word can have any meaning whatsoever.

Also people need to stop with this childish notion that counter-protesting is a form of censorship. It's not.

[mikey4444]

Well said Kromo.

I have changed the BA !

[Khandro]

Kromo; //A young woman has now been killed, ostensibly over a statue.// A specious connection there. She was killed be a deranged individual, nothing to do with a statue.

Winston Churchill did many things some good some dubious, it would not be unthinkable for some snowflake student to use facebook and twitter to start a campaign to remove his statues, there could be no end to it and it is a road to nowhere.

[gulliver1]

Thought his name was Donald, whats all this president?

[anotheoldgit]

gulliver1

/// Thought his name was Donald, whats all this president? ///

That is the position he was voted in as, so technically he should be address as Mr President.

[anotheoldgit]

The usual can of worms has been opened.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4787428/Thousands-protest-America-Charlottesville.html

[jim360]

Well, Trump's now come out all guns blazing against the racist Neo-Nazi bigots.

[-Talbot-]

Yes ... oddly I have a thread going in body & soul about that :0/

[ichkeria]

"Well, Trump's now come out all guns blazing against the racist Neo-Nazi bigots. "

He'd been shamed first by the Governor of New Jersey, his own Vice President, and of course the resignation of this Merck chief Mr Frasier.
Not to mention the death of Heather Heyer.

[Garaman]

I have often criticised Trump, but I applaud him for that speech.