Do You Agree With The Cafe Owner Or The Boycotters?

[sp1814]

Would you support child-free establishments?

http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/27/people-boycott-cafe-after-it-bans-all-children-under-the-age-of-12-6882057/

[rockyracoon]

Yes, definitely.

[sandyRoe]

Is this not discrimination?

[youngmafbog]

Sorry ummm not been clear. The 'they' are the people with misbehaving kids not anyone on here.

[andy-hughes]

I think the word 'discrimination' is highly emotive, and is being misused in this context.

There are perfectly valid reasons for refusing to allow children into business premises, and in law, the café owner is not obliged to serve anyone he does not wish to serve, and is not obliged to give a reason.

I have no problem with his choice - if I was out with my family, I would simply find somewhere else to eat - if it was just my wife or my grown-up children, I would give his café a try.

[ferlew]

Totally and wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment.
Sick to death of having (in the past) to cut a pub or cafe outing to the bare bones because of screaming, ill behaved youngsters running amok whilst parents busy chatting to pals or on the phone.
Free spirits?? My *** !!

[Cloverjo]

When my son was young we were asked to leave a pub because of his age, even though he was perfectly well-behaved. I was a bit miffed at the time.

However, I agree with the cafe owner here. Most children are not as perfect as my boy,(:)) and are pains in the backside.

[mallyh]

yes ,I would go there .

[zebo]

It may become more common. I recall in the '70s going to a pub in Yorkshire, Appletreewick I think, where smoking wasn't allowed inside or out, it seemed very novel. I don't mind taking my grandchildren into cafes, they know that if they embarrass me it will be the last time, but there are times when it's nicer to be away from children. In a place in Bolton years ago the manager politely asked a family to stop their children running around as the staff were carrying hot food. The abuse he got was incredible, I ostentatiously gave him a note of my name and address in case he needed a witness to any accident.

[ToraToraTora]

I wish they'd do it round here, annoying brats everywhere, they are bang on , well done.

[campbellking]

I don't have children but have no problem spending time in eating establishments that welcome children. I do have several friends however who relish going to places like Warners who offer adult only holidays - these friends all being parents themselves. I wouldn't boycott this establishment, but neither would I particularly choose to go to it because it bans children.

[dannyk13]

Zebo, I remember going to a pub in the sixties where a no smoking ban was in place.
http://www.pubhistorysociety.co.uk/nosmoking.html

[ludwig]

I don't have an issue with it. I wouldn't go there specifically because it was child-free, but I wouldn't boycott it either.
The people who object to it should just vote with their feet rather than deliberately organising boycotts.

I do tend not to like adult only things though - holidays and the like. I think they're a bit sad. I don't mind seeing kids about the place.

[jourdain2]

The café owner every time. My own children were well-behaved when eating out and so are my grandchildren (united glares quieten if necessary) but some children are so awful, noisy and unruly that I avoid places which attract young families. If parents got a grip then this would not be necessary. Used to have a separate room in several places where children were welcome. His place, his rules, fine with that.

[emmie]

i would support child free establishments, however
some kids can be quite well behaved..

[ludwig]

..Let's face it no-one wants to see unaccompanied young tearaways like this rampaging about the place
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-41122909

[douglas9401]

I doubt a boycott will ever come to be.
Wendy and Lee will be far too busy on social media, basking in the glow of admiration from their many supporters while their offspring set fire to the curtains behind them.

[Tilly2]

Ludwig, that is interesting. :-)

[tamaris]

Yes ban them. Why do they they all scream these days, our children were well behaved. Mind all the parents are too busy on their phones to watch over them.

[Tilly2]

Not all parents, Tamaris, but a large majority.

[New Judge]

“I think a number of country pubs would close down if they didn't allow for families with children.”

They think they would. However, as this post shows, if they made a feature of their adult-only environment they would attract more people than they lose. As well as that the customers they attract are more likely to be higher spending and cause them far less grief. I have found a few very nice adult only restaurants and pubs – many out in the sticks. None are struggling and all provide a very pleasant atmosphere in which to be fed and watered. There are plenty of places I wold not set foot in because they are specifically “family” (i.e.children) friendly establishments. Nobody moans that these places do not cater very well for adults without children and even though adults are not banned nobody without children would choose them. It’s time to support the places that offer a choice of a child-free environment. It’s unfortnate for the small minority of parents who do take the trouble to keep their children under control but I’m getting particularly pi55ed off with having my eating and drinking out ruined by unruly brats.

And yes it is discrimination but not illegal discrimination.