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Kromovaracun | 08:57 Wed 06th Sep 2017 | News
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According to Conservative Home, Jacob Rees Mogg has emerged as the favourite among Tory grassroots as the next leader.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/05/jacob-rees-mogg-emerges-favourite-succeed-theresa-may/

Obviously, grassroots support is not as important in the Conservative party as it is in Labour. But does this make him a serious contender or do you still consider him a joke?

In the un/likely event of a Rees Mogg leadership entering a face off with Corbyn, who do you think would win?
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I would never regard RM as a joke, as he is far too brainy and clever for that !

But he is popular at the moment, mainly because he gives such good entertainment value when being interviewed, but a Man of the People he certainly isn't.

If there was a straight contest between him and Corbyn, my money would be on Corbyn every time, and that has nothing to do with the fact I am a Labour supporter !
No I don't consider him a joke and I don't consider him a suitable contender either.
Mrs T May, will lead the Conservatives into the next election, in my opinion.
I consider JRM to be a massive joke. Almost as big a joke as the Donald was - eek, but see what that led to. I can't believe people are considering him as a contender. Would he bring his nanny with him to Downing Street?
Morning Sqad !

The last thing that the Tories need right now is a Leadership battle and RM is far too bright to be led into that fray. But there is many a slip. twixt cup and lip, and I would personally be surprised if Mrs May is still leading the good fight in June 2022.

Her ex-Chancellor described her as a dean woman walking, and I think he is dead on there.
But does this make him a serious contender or do you still consider him a joke?



I can only assume that must be directed at a particular ABer ... Who?
I can't see JRM getting the leadership, DD will grab it after he's sorted brexit. TBH though KJJ has shot his bolt anyway so It doesn't really matter who runs the Tories.
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If Rees Mogg did become leader, my partner I would probably need to leave the country purely out of fear that my Civil Partnership would no longer be recognised in the near future.

In my own not-too-limited experience, grassroots members of the Conservative party tend to be far worse people than the average person on the street, so I'd like to think that this level of preference is not representative of how well JRM would do in the wider public. But Corbyn is also very unpopular (although a bit less so than he was a month ago), so I'm not sure.

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*than he was a few months ago

*our civil partnership

Also Talbot - no, it was meant to address everyone. Probably a poor choice of words, sorry.
"In the un/likely event of a Rees Mogg leadership entering a face off with Corbyn, who do you think would win? "

Sorry I didn't answer your question:
A hung Parliament.
here is what I wrote on a similar thread the other day:
"the thing is mikey, the last election was the most polarized in history, the number of votes both labour and the tories got would normally have delivered either a substantial majority. A perfect storm of Mrs May's errors and Corbyn's excellent utilisation of the opportunities meant that the 2 parties more or less cancelled each other out. I doubt those conditions will exist next time. The Tories will have a new leader and learned those lessons and Labour will be relying on support from students etc who are notoriously difficult to get to the polls. I don't think we'll ever see KJJ in No 10. "
\\DD will grab it after he's sorted brexit.//
When will that be, though? I can't see much happening right now.

\\TBH though KJJ has shot his bolt anyway//

Sorry for being thick. I can't think who KJJ might be.
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Kim Jong Jezza, 3T's pet name for Corbyn.
brexit will be sorted in june 2019, the new leader will then have 3 years to prepare for the 2022 election.
TTT....I think you grossly underestimate how successful Labour was in June. They came close to winning....something that most people on here have been saying wasn't possible.

Yes....May made a huge tactical error in calling the Election and once she did, she just made things worse for herself and her Party, which is why she will be stabbed in the back at some point in the future.

But it wasn't all Mays fault.....Corbyn has a lot to do with the Labours increasing popularity, what ever you and other right-wingers think.
mikey: read what I wrote at 10:12 and absorb, I also wrote the same in your own thread the other day.
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As I've said many times before on AB, I find Corbyn the least objectionable prospective leader by a fairly long way at this point (though there is plenty about him I dislike).

Having said that, I genuinely don't know whether he would have been so successful in the election if a) expectations hadn't been so low to begin with and b) May hadn't run such a disastrous, vile campaign. When the next election comes, they probably won't do that again.
TTT...I have read and absorbed, and I don't agree !
Krom, why not make plans to leave now and be done with your fear that all the laws will be ripped up and abandoned the minute someone who doesn't agree with you gets in power.

You are fuelling your own project fear when there clearly isn't one.

No leader or party for that matter will rip up perfectly good and reasonable laws and legislation. Unless you have missed it we don't live in a dictatorship or autocracy or even North Korea.

This is the UK and as much as some people may or may not agree with plenty of the things that goes on here we don't tend to change things so that a minority can be purposefully hounded. Look at the all talk and no action on Burkas! And some see that as a clear and present danger to the cohesion of society!!

Get a grip. Stop your own personal project fear. Stop transposing that onto the wider audience.
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It's actually very easy to get bad laws passed very quickly in the UK (the Dangerous Dogs Act, for example, was whipped up out of nowhere in the 90s due to a media frenzy and passed into law remarkably quickly despite being garbage). Plus there are very, very few constraints on the kinds of laws the Commons can theoretically pass, because we have an unwritten constitution.

//This is the UK and as much as some people may or may not agree with plenty of the things that goes on here we don't tend to change things so that a minority can be purposefully hounded. //

That's because we don't tend to elect leaders who want to do it. Aside from keeping a majority of MPs on your side, that's pretty much the only constraint. If you have a commons majority, you can do it. It would not be at all difficult for the UK's system of government to be used for that purpose if someone of that nature held power, in my opinion.

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