Boris Speaks !

[mikey4444]

Brexit: Boris Johnson repeats Leave's £350m for NHS figure

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41289080

[ABerrant]

'...our “rebate” is deducted before the net amount is sent.'

This is an oft repeated fallacy. The rebate can only be calculated retrospectively because of its complexity and the initial provisional calculation is monitored over four years as 'better' revenue data emerges.

To quote the European Parliament:

"The initial calculation of the UK rebate for a given year is budgeted and paid the following year, on the basis of the provisional values of the variables that play a role in the calculation and financing of the mechanism. The definitive amount of the rebate is known (and any difference with the provisional amount is accordingly budgeted and paid) four years after the year in question, on the basis of the final values of the relevant variables."

"For example, this means that the 2007 UK rebate was budgeted in the 2008 EU budget in terms of a provisional amount, while the definitive amount for 2007 was calculated and budgeted only in 2011. In 2011, an amending budget addressed the difference between the provisional and definitive amounts of the 2007 UK rebate. In addition, between 2008 and 2011, the provisional amount was regularly monitored in order to budget any significant change in the estimate of the rebate."

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2016/577973/EPRS_BRI(2016)577973_EN.pdf

[vetuste_ennemi]

Thanks for the clarification, ABerrant.

[gulliver1]

Good news today , the Tories are calling for Mrs May to sack Boris , good get rid of this twerp who is an embarresment to the UK every time he opens his mouth .

[mikey4444]

The reality is that Mrs May lacks the cojones to sack Boris.

[gulliver1]

Think the truth is Mikey , May is scared of Johnson sacking her, he should not be in her cabinet, she should be more careful next time she goes picking her Bluebells in the merry month of May.

[-Talbot-]

8 hours before ... gimme job and I'm a Remainer link?

Anyone?

[ladybirder]

I've had a quick look and I can't find one but I'm sure Eddie or Mikey will provide one shortly Talbot.

[Old_Geezer]

They would have issues with getting rid of Boris. He's still standing up for implementing the result of the referendum. Something many wouldn't have believed after the result was known. Lose one of those sticking up for democracy and you lose loads of respect as a party. They could do with finding some more folk willing to implement Brexit, not do away with whoever they find that still pushes for it.

[-Talbot-]

Thanks for the effort, Ladybirder. ;0)

[Zacs-Master]

'finding some more folk willing to implement Brexit'

138 Con MPs voted leave.

[Gromit]

The theory amongst several Conservative MPs is that Boris wants to be sacked so he can attend the Party Conference as the Brexit Martyr. There are even rumours that he plans to resign.
May intends to sack him in a reshuffle after the Conference, so he has nothing to lose.

[New Judge]

“...our “rebate” is deducted before the net amount is sent.'

This is an oft repeated fallacy.”

Then the BBC is telling lies:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41306354

“To use the most up to date calendar year figures, published by the Treasury, in 2016 the UK's gross contribution to the EU was calculated as £327m per week. But the whole of that sum did not leave the Treasury's coffers because before anything was paid to the EU, the UK's rebate of £75m per week was applied. The total sum sent worked out at £252m per week.”

Anyway I don’t particularly care one way or the other because the EU’s idea of a “rebate” and mine is somewhat different. Effectively they say “we’re charging you an agreed sum which includes a reduction for xyz”. They define that as a “rebate”. It’s rather like saying I get a tax rebate each month because I pay a reduced amount of tax by virtue of my personal allowance.